Latest revision as of 13:57, 18 February 2018

We should add this and the 'About' page to the sidebar also, can I gets admin privileges to do this please? Also shall we private message the regular users of the forum? I'm really happy putting in the lions share collecting and editing quotes of arguments, but might be good to have a few eyes on how people would like the table of contents to look like and what advice pages would interest them most. Also what's the role of bureaucrats? Just would like to know these things and be offered the option if I'm putting in a lot of the work, not that I'd definitely want the job --NonZeroSum (talk) 05:23, 15 July 2017 (CEST)

Didn't see this before. All trustedUsers now have the right to edit the sidebar. I'm not sure what bureaucrats are for now. Originally I think they're just meant to assign users to groups. I added in some permissions so I could redact IP addresses, but now because only logged in users can edit it's impossible (I think) for them to show anymore. I don't think we will have so many users that it will be much of a job. My plan is just to add recognized users to the trustedUsers group, which will have whatever powers are useful. Ideally bureaucrat will be an obsolete job once I figure out the permissions.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 06:12, 24 July 2017 (CEST)

Full list of pages

• Antinatalism
• Arguments for veganism
• Bad Arguments for veganism
• Carbon Offset
• Clean Meat
• Companion Animal Care
• Consensus
• Definition of Vegan
• Developing the Alternate version in FOL
• DrSinger: Summary
• Editing Guidelines
• Freeganism
• Getting to the most charitable version
• Getting to the steel-manned version
• Introduction to Vegan YouTube
• Isaac Brown
• Less Able Humans
• Logical connectives
• Main Page
• Marginal Cases
• NTT counterpart sections
• NTT to be revised
• NameTheTrait
• NameTheTrait 2.0
• NameTheTrait Correction
• Nutrients of Concern
• Objective-subjective distinction
• Old steel-manning and interpreting
• Old summary of issues
• Pet Ownership
• Philosophical Vegan Patreon
• Philosophical Vegan Twitter
• Philosophical Vegan YouTube Channel
• Proving Formal Arguments
• Racism in Veganism
• Seven Deadly Sins of Bad Vegan Activism
• Starting a YouTube Channel
• Sustainable Vegan Agriculture
• Table of Contents
• The Philosophical Vegan Forum
• Value Narcissism etc
• Vegan Video Resource Library Pamphlet
• Vegan YouTubers
• Zero Waste

Categorised

• Nutrition & Health
  • Nutrients of Concern

• Lifestyle
  • Companion Animal Care
  • Zero Waste
  • Freeganism
  • Carbon Offset

• Activism/ Advocacy
  • Clean Meat
  • Environmentalist Approach
    • Sustainable Vegan Agriculture
  • Arguments for veganism
    • Consensus
    • Marginal Cases
    • Less Able Humans‎‎
  • Bad Arguments for veganism
    • Seven Deadly Sins of Bad Vegan Activism
    • NameTheTrait
  • Toolkits
    • Social Media
      • Starting a YouTube Channel
        • Vegan YouTubers

• Ethics
  • Definition of Vegan
  • Objective-subjective distinction
  • Proving Formal Arguments‎
  • Bigotry
    • Racism in Veganism
  • Antinatalism

• Other Platforms
  • Forum
  • YouTube‎‎
  • Twitter
  • Patreon

Not part of the table of contents

NTT

• Developing the Alternate version in FOL
• DrSinger: Summary
• Getting to the steel-manned version
• Isaac Brown
• Logical connectives
• NTT counterpart sections
• NTT to be revised
• NameTheTrait 2.0
• NameTheTrait Correction
• Old steel-manning and interpreting
• Old summary of issues
• Sustainable Vegan Agriculture
• Value Narcissism etc

Redirects

• Pet Ownership
• Getting to the most charitable version

Wiki

• Main_Page
• About
• Table of Contents
• Editing Guidelines‎‎

Potential video library page

• Introduction to Vegan YouTube
• Vegan Video Resource Library Pamphlet

Sorting

Unsorted threads in ‘All the arguments against,’‘Advocacy,’ and ‘Ethics’ are unduly long and could use sub-categorizing better, whilst others could use merging, so can throw out ideas for a rough table of contents now but I imagine it will emerge as well with what pages we most enjoy writing. --NonZeroSum (talk) 05:23, 15 July 2017 (CEST)

Whay, successfully transferred all the hyperlinks for the categorized list of every thread on the forum to the table of contents talk page, so we can all edit it now on one page.

And the main table of contents page is red linked now so people can simply click on a broken hyperlink and start writing the page, as I said above feel free to create your own, merge or split categories further.

If you ever want to copy any format you're working on into libreoffice word, you can save it as a mediawiki file, then it's only a bit of rejigging with find and replace tool in officeword to clean up further. --NonZeroSum (talk) 23:50, 19 July 2017 (CEST)

Diet/Nutrition

Really great work on Diet/Nutrition, maybe just one thing, you changed Drugs in Lifestyle to Recreational and Medicine, the forum threads categorized under drugs were talking about recreational so that makes sense and one on self medicating for mental health, so I think all medicine will likely be covered in the disease prevention and optimal nutrition sections. The threads that I originally categorised into medicine was a subcategory of principles, mostly hardcore vegans coming onto the forum asking about the trace animal products in medicine they had no alternative too. Will take it out for now, but if you had something in mind change it back no problem. --NonZeroSum (talk) 10:56, 26 July 2017 (CEST)

I was thinking dietary measures in disease prevention/treatment; that is, specifically vegan relevant. Medical interventions are something we don't need to cover really, since that's mainstream and I'm sure others do that much better than we do, we just need to discuss the ethical aspects regarding animal testing or ingredients in medicines. Where did supplements go? That might fit with something like a beneficial substances, before dangerous ones. --BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 23:17, 26 July 2017 (CEST)

No worries, OK moved it from under 'Principles' in the 'Ethics' section to under 'Nutrition and Health,' just felt odd before under 'Lifestyle' when it's often not something people have any option over, but with the ethics section turning into moral schools of thought, specific ethical situations like medicine can be covered under Health. Agreed good place to talk about animal testing, animal ingredients and anti-vaxers etc. --NonZeroSum (talk)

Lifestyle

2 questions people come to the forum to ask a lot, categorized in 'General' and 'Principles' under 'Ethics' at the moment. Maybe can move to lifestyle or will merge with other sections as project goes along.

• Is it Vegan? (Moral grey areas)
• Staying Vegan (people and situations that make it difficult to stick to principles)--NonZeroSum

Aha, yes, that's a good idea. I just didn't get the Principles heading. Although they are related, having them separate articles is good because there's a lot to say on those topics. I think lifestyle is a good place. --BrimstoneSaladWiki

Ethics

• Universalism
  • Consequentialism
    • Altruism, The Golden Rule
    • Rule Based
    • Utilitarianism
    • Egoism
  • Virtue Ethics
  • Deontology
  • Evolutionary Ethics
  • Divine Command Theory
• Relativism
• Nihilism

Existentialism

I removed this from the list under ethics for now while categorizing because I don't know where it belongs. Existentialism isn't really normative, or has a lot of mixed interpretations. See: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/existentialism/ I think it probably belongs in a political subsection, or under spirituality. Existentialists were pretty hard line against nailing down any single consistent philosophy, and disagreeing with each other, so we don't really have a clear summary of what normative existentialist ethics look like, or the basis for its meta-ethical claims. It seems to be more literary, political, and spiritual in nature. Can you explain what the article would contain, or make some short summaries of the normative and meta-ethical positions so it can be categorized in context with other articles? Or should we put this in another area, and if so what (political, spiritual?)--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 23:29, 31 July 2017 (CEST)

You're right that it's not normative in the Universalist sense, there are 3 distinct schools; Universalist, Relativist and Nihilist:

Meta-ethics #Substantial theories

Also see wiki/Moral nihilism

Think about it like this, where a relativist would say the most ethical thing to do is participate in a drum circle for 8 hours in order to go more in sync with your community and learn to act as one whole, and the global consequentialist would say the most ethical is to stand up to your community and spend your time giving charity to the neighbouring village who are more open to help, the nihilist can accept the consequentialist view in theory but might spend half an hour at the drum circle in order to keep that family connection and learn something about themselves which felt entirely necessary, because if they didn't spend any time on the virtues everyone might become an unfeeling ghost and the quality of life that is produced from charity/solidarity is lessened. So it just asks for the accommodation of another norm of authenticity.

It definitely isn't spiritual as existence preceding essence is the polar opposite truth that religion rejects, Kierkegard, Wittgenstein and Spinoza can be seen as precursors to existentialism simply because they reinvented religion from it's tyrannical force to something entirely arbitrary, and took the view that it was a leap of faith to something pleasant, which couldn't be aligned with most of the the worlds religions.

So even though a lot of the ideas will be able to be merged with virtue activism on specific pages, to understand whole movements and groups it will be important to have a page explaining where the desire towards existentialist goals come from, from amoral to supremely humanist/animalist.

The standford articles are great, I spend many days reading their site, put all the most important quotes together here Ethical Nihilism

Also a good conversation comparing and contrasting virtue ethics and existentialism

This conversation also is based around the stanford article of Wilfred Sellars which has existentialist implications - The scientific image of man, Sellars

--NonZeroSum (talk) 07:52, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

"because if they didn't spend any time on the virtues everyone might become an unfeeling ghost" That's consequentialist reasoning. --BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 21:10, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

Aye it was an argument for existentialist virtues via consequence, but do you understand how because we're always swimming through relativist societies and peoples subjective value theories that what is most important to the nihilist would be having their ethical choices felt and understood. --NonZeroSum (talk)

"it will be important to have a page explaining where the desire towards existentialist goals come from, from amoral to supremely humanist/animalist." I agree with that. This is more of a question, then, of "why be good?" rather than what good is (which is answered by the normative theories). This is a good reference to start the page, and then maybe pull in existentialist arguments? https://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?t=1932 --BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 21:10, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

Sounds like a plan: Why go Vegan? --NonZeroSum (talk)

Virtue ethics

Moved into new category, rule consequentialism.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 23:30, 31 July 2017 (CEST)

I really don't think that's a great idea as rule consequentialism is the umbrella term for referring to all consequentialist schools from utilitarian to virtue:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consequentialism-rule/#GloCon

I think you may have misunderstood what they're saying there (unless I misunderstand you). Rules do not refer to the core axioms of judgement of the ultimate consequences. Rules refer to the heuristics involved in reaching those consequences... a step removed, basically. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consequentialism-rule/#FulVerParRulCon Classical Utilitarianism is not a form of rule consequentialism, the article didn't make that very clear. There are, however, spectra and arguments for rule consequentialism within every consequentialist framework (usually what one would call partial rule consequentialism), including within Utilitarianism; the difference is more of an empirical outlook. Virtue ethics typically holds that we should cultivate virtues [as a rule] because those virtues result in good outcomes [either for the world, or for the ego as in some self-interested schools of enlightenment oriented Buddhism (as opposed to, say, Mahayana)].--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 21:40, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

Virtue ethics is very well known for being a distinct 'applied ethic' to utilitarianism and deontology again. Best to keep going with effective activism, virtue activism and alternative perspectives on the specific pages, then explain in the ethics section that virtues come under universalist consequentialism, and alternative perspectives were often either amoral, relativist or deontological. --NonZeroSum (talk) 07:36, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

Well known isn't always accurate, of course. If you ask the question "why?" then you can get at whether it is in fact consequentialist in some form. We usually find that it's a form of rule-consequentialism. It is distinct from Utilitarianism, but Utilitarianism is only one form of consequentialism. I'm fine with just putting them all under consequentialism, under universalism, with deontological the only outsider under universalism, and then relativism outside that, and leaving discussion of rule-consequentialism to inside the ethics articles. I agree that our current "EA, virtue, and alternative" is a good format within other articles on the wiki.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 21:40, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

That's helfpufl thanks, but yea the answer to why in virtue ethics is it develops character not ends, it's concerned with means, merging the acts-ends distinction.

Evolutionary ethics

Changed this to Evolutionary Ethics, since I don't think the meta-ethics alone can carry an article (on Wikipedia it's all one page) and other categories are not broken down into normative and meta-ethics.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 01:55, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

OK makes sense, put it all under Universalist then, and the Meta-ethics side of evolutionairy ethics can be discussed as a sub-title of the Universalist page. --NonZeroSum (talk) 07:36, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

I moved Evolutionary Ethics and the others up under Consequentialism. I saw you changed Universalist to realist, I think you had it right the first time. Universalism is a better general descriptor, since realism may be more contentious: Concerning the Correspondence of an Ethical System to the Definition of Morality --BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 01:01, 2 August 2017 (CEST)

Interesting reading! I read the same paragraph inator did on stanford about semantics and thought universalists had to stick to their guns and call themselves realists, like nihilists being speculative realists. But inator preferencing anti-realism was swayed by it to call themselves universalist.

Stjn's Theories

Minumum Complaint Theory

I removed this from the listing. This just seems to be the pet theory of a single person who presented it on the forum, and it doesn't make any sense/offer anything novel. (Note My and Inator's responses) If its originator can answer the challenges in a coherent way we could include it, but if we include every personal system here regardless of value I think we'll end up drowning out the signal of mainstream information with noise.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 23:18, 31 July 2017 (CEST)

Fair enough, went back and looked at the moral hand theory too and that was also Stjn's paper, so nothing that would require a whole page on. --NonZeroSum (talk) 07:36, 1 August 2017 (CEST)

Ethical issues

Maybe we can have an article on purity in general vs. pragmatism in Ethics.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 00:04, 3 August 2017 (CEST)

Aye, sounds good.

List of threads to draw from

Wiki

• Vegan community building
• PhilosophicalVegan.com / wiki?
• featured articles / table of contents / frequently asked questions.
• Is the forum useless?
• Vegan wiki?
• Persuasion declutter thread: how to convince people?
• Vegan apologetics index
• Wiki

Diet/Nutrition

• Adequate Nutrition
• Nutrients of Concern
• Vegan Pregnancy
• Optimal Nutrition
• Dangerous Substances
• Disease Prevention & Treatment
  • Cardiovascular Disease
  • Cancer
  • Dementia
  • Mental Illness
  • Diabetes
  • Acne
• Eating Disorders
  • Anorexia
  • Bulimia
  • Orthorexia
• Fringe Diets
  • High Carb Low Fat
  • Low Carb, Eco-Atkins
  • Calorie Restriction CRAN/CRON

Supplements

• Why are B12 supplements helpful?
• To supplement or not?
• Vegan D3 supplement
• What is so wrong about supplements?
• My first B12 suppliments. Cruel Irony
• Questions About Supplements
• Animal feed supplementation
• Vegan Omega 3 DHA/EPA
• Vegan Supplements Vegan B12 Vegan D3

Medical

• OTC Medicine = Vegan?
• Bovine Leukemia Virus
• Vegan Diet and Cavities?
• Gout & Vegan (Is it possible?)
• Can I still consider myself a vegan if meds contain lactase?
• My bovine aortic valve

General

• How do I become vegan? [Guide]
• Vegan Website Resource List
• Questions about daily recommended nutrition values
• Determining the nutritional content of foods with high water content
• Suffering caused by different “foods”
• Why no daily recommendations for phytonutrients?
• Could Someone Dissect This Article On Saturated Fat?
• Monosodium glutamate
• Counting my nutrients
• Your saturated fat intake should be no more than 7% of your total calorie intake
• Are there any vitamins or minerals where more is always better?
• How much iodised salt do vegans need?
• Life Loving Foods – Sustainable food solutions !
• Does fat get stored as fat?
• Daily Servings in Grams
• Fixing potatoes and Rice? (environmental impact)
• Should I Start Cooking Dinner for Everyone?
• Drinking Water with Meals
• Common Cold & zinc
• Omega 3 to 6 ratio dilemma
• Health issues with several Fruits/Grains/Legumes
• Dr. Gregors new video on DHA for Vegans
• is it dangerous to eat too much vegetal proteins?
• any advantage to drinking tea vs eating the leaves?
• Excessive tofu causes kidney stones?
• low energy levels
• Confusion with saturated fat
• Tofu marinades
• Starch… Intolerance? Or Not?
• How to use Cronometer (vitamin A, RAE)
• Vegan weight loss
• Fruits
• Is it possible to be deficient of unsaturated fats
• Ingredients that MAY not be vegan
• Daily Recommended Intakes for Amino Acids
• Calcium needs for vegans?
• What/ When do we eat ?
• Did meat eating play a role in human evolution?
• The Inevitable
• Are we frugivores or omnivores?
• questions to vegans
• simple vegi meals
• Cereals with…
• Perfecting my diet
• What did you have for dinner tonight?
• What’s for Lunch?
• Your Favourite Vegan Meal?
• What breakfast do you have?

Recipes/Products

• Morning smoothie
• Plant based liquid meal
• Question about vegan beer in Bulgaria
• Alternative to Yogurt?
• Vegan Hot Chocolate
• Vegan Multivitamins (Seeking Advice/Further Information)
• Vegan Apparel & organic produce website
• Vegan Dog Food
• Just tried VeganEgg by Follow Your Heart
• Is it Vegan?
• did you know about Baobab powder??
• Pleasant surprise
• Can gelatin be vegan?
• Bean Spread for Toast?
• Good Vegan Versions of Animal Products
• Vegan Cook Books
• Making healthful tortillas (or other flatbread)
• Vegan Shoes
• Plant-based eggs
• Vegan leather.
• Vegan Food Haul
• Mushrooms and other food I dislike
• Favourite recipes
• Is candy vegetarian?
• Tempeh making machine on kickstarter
• Leather, shoes, quivers and bows.
• Happy Thanksgiving!
• I was wondering if [replacement ingredients for fruitcake]
• Guinness goes vegan
• Surprisingly Non-Vegan/Vegetarian Foods
• Vegan Food subsection forum merged here
• VEGAN CHOCOLATE MUG CAKES
• is this product legit?
• Soy and B12
• Soup
• Vegan Shoes
• Favorite Vegan Meat Substitute?
• Vegan Deodorant Recommendations?
• Nut Cheese? Is it good?
• Dyes?
• I just discovered TVP
• Chickpeas/hummus
• Soylent?
• A Cooking Video for Vegans New and Old
• Most Disliked Foods/Ingredients?
• Kale?
• Some Everyday Items Contain Animal Products?
• Photos – What Are You Eating?
• What to put in my coffee
• A good and (maybe) tasty replacement for fish
• Vegetarian Chicken Cutlets?? No Thanks.
• Coconut Oil vs. Palm Oil
• Which milks do you enjoy?
• Anyone love mushrooms?
• Beans
• What’s your favorite fruit?
• Artichoke Spinach Cauliflower Bean Burger
• Chocolate Lovers Thread
• vegan cheese questions
• Cookbook/recipe recommendations?
• I need to learn how to tofu
• What’s your favorite alcoholic beverage?
• Food replacements
• Veggie burgers.
• Vegan chock. spread “may contain traces of milk”
• Smoothies
• Unhealthiest food sold at stores?
• Easy Vegan Chocolate Pudding =D
• Coconut milk fruit smoothy
• Vegan Wine
• Pumpkin Pie
• unexcpected vegan or non vegan
• The Vegan Stoner Cookbook
• Tofu/soy products and health
• Cauliflower Fettucine Alfredo
• Protein macaroons
• Shadow Fox’s Atheist Banana Bread (Non-Vegan)
• Tofu tofu tofu, what do I do with my tofu?
• Nut Cheese discussion
• Ma Po Tofu, vegan-style
• Carnosine – Do you Take It?
• Can we make a supplement?
• Make your own vegan yogurt
• Vegan Casein? Possible or no?
• Vegan motorcycle clothing
• [Vegan chips – Garden Veggie Straws]
• tempeh
• Love it or Hate it? Durian
• Ice Cream? No thanks… I’m Weird!!!

Advice/ Nutrition

• Should I Watch Earthlings?
• Omega-3 from fish obligatory?
• Do we have daily nutritional requirements?
• Student struggling to stay vegan
• Veganism & Hunger !
• seriously need help
• I always go back to eating meat
• Farting
• Aflatoxin
• I became vegan and got so much “support”
• What to eat on a cold/flu?
• Trying Vegan Diet
• Help
• Help With Vegan Diet?
• I’ve been a Vegan/Vegetarian for about 8 months now, and am having severe meat craving again, I need help.
• pimples
• I am a meat-eater looking to change my view.
• Want to be vegan but don’t want to waste food
• Why is Veganing so hard!
• How wrong is this?
• Away Vegan
• vegan craving meat
• How Much Fruit Is Too Much?
• Wanna help out a new vegan??
• Help needed with health snacks
• Alright 7 days as a vegan, a beginners tale!
• Tardigrades and how to avoid them
• 1 month
• Veg*ns on Minimum Wage
• Nuts and Weight Gain – True or False?
• Do you eat iodized salt?
• Can certain foods reduce abdominal fat?
• Help a celiac sister out…
• Foods and things I need to avoid
• Indigestion and stomach pain from being a vegan
• Please check my diet-plan.
• Cholesterol confusion
• High Calorie Expenditure. Need ideas for vegan fat source.
• Transitioning from pescetarian to vegan & b12 supplementation
• I am having issues with my veganism
• Are Smoothies Good or Bad?!
• Can’t stop thinking about meat, I’m going crazy >_<
• Low Methionine On Vegan Diet?
• My Calorie Reduced Diet Through Cronometer: Help
• Starting as of right now, I am officially Vegan!
• Vegan milk problem
• Transitioning to vegan for health reasons – looking for suggestions
• Diet Improvements
• Vegan diet impact on your health
• Cronometer challenge
• Good Fact-Based Vegan/Health YouTubers? Websites?
• Cheese Is As Addictive As Crack?
• I’m ready to give another try
• 100% VEGAN BRANDS…where?!
• the importance of gut microbes
• Vegetarian for half a year
• Chickening Out
• This Is Easier Than I Thought!
• Hungry for meat
• Losing weight and an appropriate vegan diet
• Nina Teicholz: Saturated Fat Is Essential, Is She Mistaken?
• Dietary Cholesterol- Not a Concern?
• I’m making the transition to vegan
• time takes eating wholefoods/cooking – I have good news
• Fermented foods, ethyl carbamate and other carcinogens
• I Require Assistance to Become a Vegan
• Convince me
• Third attempt at becoming vegan.
• Oil
• FULLY hydrogenated oils
• Olive oil, cooking oil: Yea or nay?
• Plague Doctor here
• Brimstone,Minibos, VA.
• Going Vegan…. HELP!
• gaining weight as a vegan / vegetarian
• Vegetarian to vegan?
• what do i need to stay healthy
• new evidence that red meat is harmful to health
• I’m someone who eats meat, however, need reason to change.
• Dealing with low blood pressure
• Advice for a new vegan – Protein!
• Non-food aspects of veganism
• Becoming vegan
• Paleo to Vegan – Questions for Vegans

Sugar

• Sugar
• A Vegan Question On Sugar
• Sugar (glucose/fructose/sucrose) substitutes

Fringe Diets

•  Paging Dr Woo
• Quitting a raw vegan diet is not failure.
• what is wrong with freelee´s diet
• A Fruitarian
• Need some advice on my raw diet.
• Your insight about raw vegans
• Denise Minger
• GMO’s?
• The Starch Solution. Your Thoughts?
• What is everyone’s opnion on GMO’s?
• The Ph Lifestyle
• Pseudoscience Within the Vegan Community
• GMOs- Vegan or Not
• Anyone Here a Raw Vegan?
• Debunking Gary Taubes’ “Good Calories, Bad Calories”

Lifestyle

Is it Vegan?

• Ethical Milk: Is it possible and what would it cost? (UV video)
• What about Love???
• Food for the Body and for the Soul?
• Survival of the fittest and Social Justice?
• Life Loving – What is that you say ???
• Veganism as a complimentary lifestyle !
• South Lakes Safari Zoo – Discussions on zookeeping.
• eating insect pollinated crops
• Cereals fortified with Vitamin D from Sheep Wool
• Eating vegan at fast food restaurants?
• Crash Course Philosophy: Non-Human Animals
• Palm oil
• Do bees make a surplus of honey?
• Is Eating Organic Vegan?
• Is it vegan to eat at McDonalds?
• do shrimps suffer?
• Killing Boars?
• OYSTERS & VEGANS
• On Sugar: cane, coconut or agave?
• Are There Problems With Almond Milk?
• Vegan and pro Animals in Medical Experiments
• Animals and medicine
• Just found out about palm oil.
• Insects
• As a semi-vegan?
• Are you surprised/disappointed by the slow spread of veganism?
• What about insects?
• Remove eggchickens
• Are Antidepressants Vegan?
• Pro choise and vegan?
• cowspiracy-> problem:cow farts solution: cow-holocaust ?
• Product like palm oil
• Is Eating HONEY Ok?!?!
• Are “Cage-Free” eggs really more humane?
• May contain …
• Organic Foods?
• Is it moral to eat insects?
• How do you square being vegan with being pro-choice?
• Cheese
• Should one be vegan even in lucid dreams?
• CRUELTY FREE SCHOOL SUPPLIES?
• Honey?
• Reprogramming predators
• Free Range Chickens and Dairy Cows
• Service Animals
• Honey for Vegan
• Ocean Life Extermination
• Experiments on Animals
• Animal Products For Clothes As Well As Honey/Waste
• What do you think of Bullfighting?
• Are eggs okay?
• Vaccines, Flu Shots, and eggs
• Conflicted regarding family-owned farms
• Eggs, kind of….
• Going easy on leather
• Are Windows Cruel?
• Help again
• Are Almonds Vegan? (please read, serious question)
• fish, pain?
• sentient
• Veal vs. Meat
• Redesigned Zoo?
• Do you buy/consume Coca Cola products?
• Fishing
• CockFight (The Horror!)
• Buying vegan stuff from companies that also produce meat
• Animal killing for Game of Thrones
• Less sentient, less rights?
• Book recommendations
• Book recommendations
• Invasive Species
• Invasive species, what can even we do?
• Moral illusions and wild animal suffering

Staying Vegan

• What do I do with leather items?
• Should I throw away my feather pillows?
• Thoughts on Non-Vegan Gifts
• Veganism and trace amounts of animal products
• Working with meat.
• Times When You’ve Accidentally Eaten Animal Products
• Eating Non-vegan Food Offered By Family?
• Should I have compromised?
• First time since April.
• Do you eat with meat meaters?
• Vegans purchasing nonvegan food for nonvegans?
• lack of meat aversion – Hi
• A few questions
• Clean utensiles between non-vegan/vegan use?
• old leather
• Paris exemption
• “Oh, I’m Not One of THOSE Vegans”
• Veganism vs Vegetarianism

Community

• Vegan community building
• Local atheist/vegan community
• Surrounded By Carnism

Dining Out

• What does a Vegan eat in the street?
• Vegan food at the university
• Best vegan restaurant/cafe
• Hare Kṛṣṇa, Anyone have any experiences there?

Career

• Vegan working in non-vegan restaurant
• Does your job ever conflict with your veganism?

Friends

• Talking to friends
• Fishy Situation
• do you manage to make friends with non vegan people?
• Catering the non vegan
• Gary Yourofsky’s rule for eating with non-vegans
• Dinner guest?
• sneaky carnist

Partners

• In need of vegan related relationship advice
• Online Dating for Vegans?
• Relationship wall
• Sticky Situation [cyber dating and creeps]

Family

• Dealing with Unsupportive Parents
• Fed up with these jokes (Rant)
• On the matter of vegan babies.
• Vegan family member refusing to eat at the table
• On childhood and carnism
• Was family and friends support importan when becoming vegan?
• The Only Vegan
• “What’s the difference between a pig and a dog?”
• Help in debating with my mother
• Slowly but surely
• So, apparently I was wrong
• Internal Conflict
• Dealing With Family and Veganism

Companion Animal Care

• 7 Reasons Why Cats are Terrible Pets (UV video)
• Is “owning” a cat vegan?
• Snails
• ABLC’s “ethical veganism”
• Having pets (again)
• Pets that are obligate carnivores/omnivores…
• owning lizards
• Feeding your pets Vegan?!
• The future of pets
• What do I feed the animals in my house?
• Pet/Dog Ownership
• Pet Ownership (Animal Domestication)
• Confinement isn’t always cruel – possible example
• Advice wanted on care of rescued chicken, and ducks.
• Chlorine and Bugs
• Companion Animal Care

Vegan Music

• Vegan music.

Body Building

• Vegan Muscle Building Food
• Veg-diet & workout – am I missing out on something?
• Mr.E going Vegan
• Do bodybuilders and strength athletes need more protein?
• PlantBuilt Vegan Muscle Team
• Running
• Vegan Runner Tips?

Places to live

• Where in Europe are veggies welcome?
• Being Vegan & Cambodia, Laos, Thailand & China (on YouTube)
• Vegan Friendly and Non Vegan Friendly Cities

Zero waste

• the waste debate
• Say no to bottled water

Freegan

• Vegan makes profit from roadkill
• Is it okay to eat meat that you did not buy?
• Part Vegan Part Freegan? The concept of use?
• Eggs and Veganism
• Backyard rescue hens
• Veganism and Dumpster Diving
• FREEGAN VEGAN BEEGAN’S!?

Growing your own

• Sustaining Healthy Gardens

Wild food gathering

• Anyone Vegan here eat wild plants?

Pest control

• SPIDERS!!
• Vegan Moral Problem
• Should Vegan’s kill pests?
• House Mice
• Loads of Rabbits.

Anger management

• Why Are Most Vegan You Meet So Mean?
• Things you don’t like about meat eater and how do you deal with it
• Veganism in media and YouTube frustration.
• help

Drugs

• Treating Depression with Vegan Diet and Magic Mushrooms
• Should one encourage or discourage people to quit smoking?
• Is it ok for vegans to drink coffee?

Advocacy

• What the health – new documentary
• Help raise awareness for vegan shoes, stop exploiting cows for leather
• Is it always worth it to convince people?
• What the health
• How many animals have you saved?
• We are what we Eat?
• What To Do When You Can’t Go Vegan (Modvegan)
• What should I say to my ex-vegan friend?
• How to make a nutrition based case against eating fish.
• Veganism – Life Loving or Cruelty Free ?
• Vegan activism – Losing a Mother or Child slogan?
• What To Do When You Can’t Go Vegan (Modvegan)
• Relevant Vegan Studies
• VEGANISM IS TRENDING: Headlines & Strategies w/ Gene Baur
• How to deal with assholes who constantly lie about and misrepresent your views?
• Former Impressions On Veganism
• New study on fertilizer/animal waste pollution
• The best argument against meat eaters?
• When to Promote Veganism
• An Analysis of Workplace Injury: Agriculture is the most dangerous industry for workers
• A comprehensive list of reasons to be vegan
• Minute Earth
• Best way to advocate Veganism?
• The best way to expain why you are vegan!
• Psychologist on best way to advocate veganism
• Help [list of vegan doctors & scientists can point too]
• Tips from a Vegan Pro
• Vegan books
• HOW MANY VEGANS ?
• apparently being Vegan is becoming a “Thing”
• Cowspiracy
• Is making comparisons OK?
• Fitness Quote
• 400 million fewer animals killed in the U.S.
• What the Vegan Diet can and cannot do!
• Street Epistemology to make people Vegetarian/Vegan.
• Peer reviewed scientific studies on animal sentience.
• Vegan At Birth And Lifetime Veganism
• Immorality of eating meat – Mylan Engel Jr.
• Vegan Book Suggestions for Amazon Advertising
• Vegan Conversion Stories
• “Why?”
• Eating meat is immoral: appealing to emotion?
• Beyond Carnism – Melanie Joy
• What importance did the Internet have on you turning vegan?
• Global warming contribution from Animal Agriculture
• Non-Vegans: Earthlings Link Free Online
• Communication: Using humans in analogies / as examples
• Puppies, Pigs, and People
• The Verge – Your Meat Addiction is Destroying the Planet
• Chicken Farming
• What’s your opinion on the (a bit old) Lush campaign
• To advocate, or not to advocate.
• Animal Advocacy – Most Important Focus? [POLL]

Food Evangelism

News and Commentary

• Trump Presidency “a threat to animals everywhere”
• apparently being Vegan is becoming a “Thing”
• 400 million fewer animals killed in the U.S.
• Denmark bans halal and kosher slaughter
• Americans Flocking to China
• Nepal bans annual mass slaughter
• U.S. dietary guidelines finally change
• Israeli Army to Start Serving Vegan Food in All Mess Halls
• Public School Teaching: Where Food Comes From
• If you were a farmer, would you be able to do it?
• The Yulin Dog Meat “Festival”
• New York Times article by a former vegan
• Australian goverment censoring animal rights activists
• Mythbusters (TV Show) and Animal Bodies
• News: Women Saves Ducks, Goes to Prison for Life [POLL]
• Article: The Science of Building the Perfect Pig

YouTube commentary

• Stef Sanjati Tries Veganism!!! ♡ Trans Vegans (APV video)
• Re: Stef Sanjati “Why I won’t go vegan” (some thoughts on transphobia) [UV video]
• What should we eat? (Gary Taubes & Sam Harris)
• #DogGate
• Nikocado Avocado going back to eating meat?
• Youtuber Ask Yourself
• sudden disappearance of popular vegan blogger
• Freethoughtblogs/Patheos and Veganism
• Paleovegan is gone?
• Freethoughtblogs/Patheos and Veganism
• UNNATURAL VEGAN vs THINKABOUTTHIS
• Sam Harris going vegan, needs help
• Vegan youtubers to subscribe to
• Good Fact-Based Vegan/Health YouTubers? Websites?
• Vegan Gains?
• vegetarian trying to go vegan!
• You Were Right.
• Veganism in media and YouTube frustration
• Vegan infighting and movement unity; response to ModVegan
• vegan gains
• Stefan Molyneux on animal rights
• Unnatural Vegan Hatred?
• Effective Vegan Activism? RE: Vegan Gains Video
• Vegan Gains Critique – Future Video
• Vegan Gains is a waste of fools and time
• Vegan youtubers to subscribe to
• A-bas-la-ciel VS. Durianrider
• Issues with Mic. the Vegan

All the arguments against

• Veganism and “Survivor”
• Things I don’t like about some vegans
• Fallacious Arguments
• “Arguments for Consuming Animal Products”
• Debunking the “vegan is too expensive” myth
• Honey
• On-going correspondence about veganism
• Having your kids eat vegan a crime?
• I maybe want to become a meat eater again
• Stupid Things Omnivores Say
• Questions for Vegans
• is eating eggs ethical?
• Why I think sustainability is more important than Vegan
• Debunking Benatar
• I’m not sure if I care about being a good person anymore
• “Discussion” with some nonvegans
• Fish
• Vegetarian diet raises risk of cancer?
• Sally Fallon Blasts Vegan Children’s Book
• All Cells Are Sentient?
• What shrimp?
• Killing animals for food
• I know from experience = I don’t have to listen [bee keeping]
• What’s wrong with soy?
• Let Them Eat Meat??? How the Ethical Argument Fails
• Anti-vegan arguments are weak.
• ”Jokes” on..
• Officially a vegetarian.
• Need vegans insight on this research
• ALL VEGANS GATHER HERE
• Veganism/Vegetarianism Causes Mental Health Issues?
• Maybe I should revert back to lacto-vegetarianism…
• Why eating meat is “good” ..
• Problem itself in vegan and meat-eater
• What ? [research paper]
• Eggs, LDL VS HDL, the common comeback.
• The good side of eating meat
• Veganism Refuted
• Dealing with anecdotal evidence
• Questions from a meat-eater
• facebook carnism is coxic
• Hunting- Cheaper?
• That stupid “bacon” response
• Eggs information
• TheUdderTruth.org
• Popular Science’s propagating Pseudoscience
• The Opposite of Mass Consumption
• Organic – Biological meat
• plants also have life
• I quit
• Immoral to eat meat? –Tostrong4you
• hunting for population control?
• Flame War That I Got In About Veganism
• Mark Bryant Budolfson’s papers against veganism
• Why I’m vegetarian, and not vegan
• How do you respond to these questions in one sentence?
• RE: Vegans: Moronic Uneducated Cunts?
• What can we eat? Where do we draw the line?
• Meat is Unhealthy. Why?
• Nature is cruel, therefore exploitation can be better?
• Compilation of common arguments
• Why I’m NOT a Vegan
• Is Veganism Elite, Expensive
• Why I am vegetarian and not vegan
• Can This Even Be Argued With?
• Sentience?
• Sentience?
• Am I a hypocrite for spreading veganism if I use smartphone?
• The Queasy Grin
• Veganism as a religion
• Do you look unhealthy?
• honest question
• your best argument against veganism
• Anti-vegan article (health)
• Anti-Vegan Article
• Help me make a list of misconceptions about Veganism!
• Inquisitive Barbaric Meat-Eater
• Veganism is hipocritical and as absurd as religion
• Why be vegan?
• If all plants became sentient tomorrow, would you eat them?
• Is Vegetarianism/Veganism Harmful?
• i think meat might be good for you.
• A solution for cruelty to animals- Not veganism!
• Critique of the Vegan Atheist
• Harriet Hall’s critism of Michael Greger
• Need someone to debunk this
• Post in response to Vegan Athiest vs MrRepzion
• Is the reasoning of animal sentience universal.
• Why Do You Eat Animals?
• Should vegans not eat plants
• Plant sentience – A Hypothetical For Vegan Input.
• Converting omnivores who have no arguments left
• Any thoughts on this?
• Responding in meat glorification conversations
• Vegans Care More About Animals Then Other Humans?
• Vegan activist and holocaust survivor on Reddit AMA
• Arguments for carnism from moral philosophers
• Being vegan can make me stupid?
• Anti-Vegan Youtube Comment
• Stupid Omnivore Facebook Reply
• Price equation look it up before answering. Non vegan
• Vegans answer this
• Depressing “Argument”
• List of arguments for veganism and carnism
• Vegan questions I can’t answer
• Arguments For Eating Animals and Against Veganism?
• Why vegan?
• Not Vegan? why?
• National Geographic article on the evolution of diet
• Mark Bryant Budolfson’s papers against veganism
• Thoughts on Dan Dennett’s awful argument for meateating?
• How to debunk the B12 argument against veganism?

Public intellectuals

• Peter Singer & Lawrence Krauss
• Thoughts on Dan Dennett’s awful argument for meateating?
• Neil Degrasse Tyson on the plant based diet

Celebrities

• Vegan figures?
• T. Colin Campbell Hates “Veganism”?
• Bill Maher on the “ethical treatment of animals”
• Should We Promote Vegan Celebrities?
• T. Colin Campbell Hates “Veganism”?

Controversial Advocacy

• 5000 years old vegan tribe
• The great divide? Chickens vs. other meat.
• Banned from Vegans United
• Want to save animals? Eat Beef.
• Vegan Elitism?
• Yourofsky quits activism — why NOT to be a misanthropist
• Preachy Vegan
• Justice vs. Morality (UV video)
• Alienation and the importance of focused activism (UV video)
• Alienation and the importance of focused activism (UV video)
• Intersectional veganism (Unnatural vegan video)
• Too Much Passion.
• Chickens
• Eating larger animals
• The vegan position on shellfish is inconsistent.
• New £5 note Not Vegan
• Plant Pain (Post-consideration?)
• Single issue driven campaigns (ModVegan)
• DxE good/bad for veganism?
• Vegan Extremism.
• Promoting veganism vs meat reduction
• “Appeal to Nature Fallacy”
• An open invitation to stop your misinformed fad and start making an actual difference in the world.
• Abolitionists
• Vegfems: A Primer
• Hens’ periods??
• “The Rational Vegan” is anything but rational
• Organic / Non-GMO Garden Club
• Irrefutable Vegan Postulate [primitivism]
• Thoughts on this?
• Stupid Things Vegans Say
• Does it happen?
• Anti-Vegetarian Vegans?
• What Are Your Thoughts on Intersectional Veganism?
• Thoughts on Thug Kitchen?
• Cowspiracy is Propaganda?
• Cowspiracy accuracy
• Controversy of Honey
• The Dog Argument
• Beyond Meat
• Carnism or Capitalism – Going Vegan won’t solve world hunger
• Oblivious Privilege Denial?
• Conversation About Veganism on Stormfront.org
• debunking false vegan propaganda
• Holocaust Comparisons
• lab grown meat
• Why veg*ns should eat lab grown meat
• You’re not a vegetarian, you just dont eat meat etc.

Abolitionist vs welfare approach

• I am a welfarist (and an abolitionist)
• Abolition of human slavery

Activism

• When and How to Intervene
• Veganish Street Talk!
• Dissecting Animals (science class)
• How do I talk to a restaurant about assisting vegans?
• Help! Survey on Vegan eating
• Morrisey: Go vegan or go hungry?
• Performing speeches in restaurants
• Please sign this petition to save Mauritian beach dogs
• Is animal conservation a priority for you?
• Other forms of helping animals
• Views on PETA.
• Veggie Parades and Effectiveness of Leafleting
• How do you handle finding dogs left in hot summer cars?

Projects

• Vegan Leaflet
• The Forest Green Rovers
• Forest Green Rovers promoted!!!
• LifeLovingFoods.com – Free VG Kebab Meal coupon !
• LifeLovingFoods.com – Enjoy our FREE VGKebabs !
• Questions about you / Research
• Recovering from eating disorders/negative body image
• The Vegoa Project
• Vegan Festival 2016
• Attending next weekend’s Forks Over Knives thingee in Pasadena?
• Webcomic project ideas
• ecornell certificate in plant-based nutrition
• Attending next weekend’s Forks Over Knives thingee in Pasadena?
• Vegan Ecovillage!
• Street Epistemology Applied to Carnism/Veganism
• Farming bugs for meat
• vegan chef certification
• Script writing – Born to die
• The Yesbick Bet. How to make people Vegan!
• Unity movie by Nation Earth
• (Obnoxiously atheist) new cookbook preview
• Vegan Companies
• IFEEL indiegogo

Open Letters

• “Forum Raid”
• Dr. Harriet Hall
• Open letter to Joe Rogan
• Next Open Letter: Penn Jillette
• Penn Jillette loses 105 lbs on plant based diet
• To Thulyblu, the AHA’s position
• to Bad Snaxx, regarding the Dillahunty letter
• Open Letter to Matt
• A Synopsis of the Ethics of Eating Cows by Matt Dillahunty

Discussion groups

• Vegan presentation – with some success
• Vegan/Vegetarian Club
• Discussion topics [U3A]
• Vegan C.A.T.C.H. Club Session
• Email from Teacher+ Credible Article About Factory Farming

Ethics

• Universalism
  • Consequentialism
    • Altruism, The Golden Rule
    • Utilitarianism
    • Egoism
  • Virtue Ethics
  • Deontology
  • Evolutionary Ethics
  • Divine Command Theory
• Relativism
• Ethical Nihilism

Universalism

Consequentialism

• Concerning the Correspondence of an Ethical System to the Definition of Morality
• Increasing overall wellbeing
• Effective Activism
• The concept of harm
• The moral hand, veganism and the most important measures
• I’m not sure if I care about being a good person anymore

Utilitarianism

• Problem with utilitarian argument for veganism?
• Is a humane life better than no life at all?
• Sterilized flies: Thoughts?
• Beastiality
• Unsupported Assumptions About Human and Animal Suffering
• Is veganism based on utilitarian ethics?

Deontology

• The Issue with Gary Francione and Deontological Veganism?
• We’re all fake vegans. Except Francione. According to Francione.
• What if Deontology was more effective?
• Animal Use Focus (besides a few exceptions) vs Animal Suffering Focus

Virtue ethics

• How to deal with assholes who constantly lie about and misrepresent your views?
• Theory and Practice in Hellenistic Ethics (Nussbaum)
• Virtue and Utopia (Andy Blunden)
• Can Franks’ Practical Anarchism Avoid Moral Relativism? by Thomas Swann
• How to deal with assholes who constantly lie about and misrepresent your views?
• Super fantabulistic introductions to virtue and existentialist ethics here
• Is veganism based on utilitarian ethics?

Evolutionary meta-ethics

• Evolutionary Ethics by Robert Wright
• Increasing overall wellbeing

Reletavism

• subjective morals and veganism

Nihilism

• [Virtue Ethics is [essentially] a form of consequentialism]
• Ethical Nihilism / Moral Skepticism / Existentialism / Speculative Realism... ask away!
• Agamben Homo Sacer animatic (Tommie Soro video)
• Optimistic Nihilism (Kurzgesagt video)
• I'm Zach ( I eat a vegan diet)
• Post Anarchist and Radical Politics today by Saul Newman
• Re: Farmed Animal Sanctuaries: The Heart of the Movement? by Donaldson and Kymlicka
• Between the Species; An Interview with Sue Donaldson and Will Kymlicka
• Solidarity in diverse societies (Kymlicka)
• Afterword: Realigning Multiculturalism and Animal Rights (Kymlicka paper)
• Contemporary Anarchism, Animal Liberation and the Implications of New Philosophy by Aragorn Eloff
• Nailing Descartes to the wall’: Animal Rights, Veganism and Punk Culture,” by Will Boisseau and Jim Donaghey
• Disturbing Places of Inter-Species Violence That Are Hidden in Plain Sight
• Moral nihilism and veganism
• Beyond Free and Equal: Subalternity and the Limits of Liberal-Democracy
• What is real?
• The Ethics of Post-Anarchism by Saul Newman
• Existential questions raised in ‘Rick and Morty’

Ethical issues

Why Go Vegan?

Indigenous rights

• Culture clash and cultural sensitivity

Moral solipsism/relativism

• 2 Questions About Logical Inconsistency & Morality
• When is moral relativism not subsumed by moral objectivism?
• What would it take for AMP3083 to go vegan?
• Terence McKenna: Language Is Best Used To Lie (AMP3083 video)
• A discussion on TFES forum
• Solipsism

Humanism

• Don’t care about animals? 5 reasons you should still go vegan (UV video)

Anti-natalism

• Is it vegan to have children?

Strong AI

• My dear Smartphone Sentient Part 2 !
• Is my dear Smartphone Sentient?

Atheism

• Dealing with irrational atheists
• Do You Prefer Atheism Or Veganism?
• Correlation Between Veganism and Non-theism
• atheist spirituality

Religion

• Easter, Monotheism, Veganism, Animal life…
• The similarity between Meat Eaters and Creationists

Economics

• Food Sovereignty/ Traditionalism – the strongest argument for eating meat (the reason why we need more investment. . .
• Confronting Capitalism: The New Politics of Animal Liberation (APV video)
• fruit transports and ecology
• Should products be required to display if vegan
• Vegan Investing – Pension plans, shares, index funds etc
• OECD-FAO Agricultural Outlook 2016–2025
• Integrated Crop-Livestock Systems is sustainable?
• food economics
• manure, gas consumption and animals
• Food Deserts and Veganism
• USDA beefing up marketing funds
• What will happen when demand for meat declines significantly
• Alternatives to Animal Testing?
• Vegan organic farming as an alternative to factory farming?
• Theories on humane animal agriculture.

Hypotheticals

• Tick that causes meat allergy (for life)
• Can the world go Vegan?
• A GUESS: A full vegan society?
• Could Veganism Save the Word?
• What If The World Went Vegetarian?
• What would a vegan world be like? Why should everyone go vegan?
• How will society react when vegans get close to majority?

Anti-Speciesism

• Are you a speciesist?
• At what point is an animal of higher value than a human?
• Speciesism

Misc

• What do you think has been the most influential discussion on veganism to date?
• Inactive members you’d like to see more of…
• The case for adding plant proteins to ground meat
• What was it like being vegan in the old days?
• Can vegans swallow or should they spit? – Serious question!
• Vegan Food eating contest vs Non-Vegan food eating contest
• A funny story relating to Veganism
• A vegan gets bitten by a dog in foreign country
• Post a poem
• Is Melania Trump a Mail Order Bride?
• The case for meat eaters [Zzzz]
• Do animals know? [they’re going to be slaughtered]
• Comments on the vegan definition [jumbled]
• Animals in cartoon
• You’re Vegan? But You Eat Pussy/Cock Right?
• I have a confession:
• Somati, trying to make a difference! [suspected scam]
• Did you go to a school where they taught how to cook?
• LOL (veggie jokes)
• deleted spam – asd
• going vegan – I win at life
• aliens, illuminati, Nazis – WhyPeopleFromFutureSupportsVeganism?