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Zero Waste is a big philosophy movement while reducing is more analogous to being frugal, we can talk about how most people who subscribe to zero waste philosophy identify as 'moving towards' and in the critique section talk about what it would mean to try and make a better term for reducing waste more popular. | Zero Waste is a big philosophy movement while reducing is more analogous to being frugal, we can talk about how most people who subscribe to zero waste philosophy identify as 'moving towards' and in the critique section talk about what it would mean to try and make a better term for reducing waste more popular. | ||
| − | Zero waste and minimalism aren't the same thing. You can be a minimalist who wastes, or somebody who doesn't waste but isn't a minimalist. Minimalism has more to do with the infrastructure you use to support yourself, or the things you own and use. Owning and using in excess could be considered wasteful, but that's a bit of a stretch because there are valid questions of personal utility. We usually regard throwing a cake in the trash as waste, but not eating it, despite the low nutritional value. Likewise, having a large house but not using the rooms could be regarded as wasting that space, but if you use them as offices, play rooms, storage, etc. even if these uses are not regarded as very productive but rather for entertainment then it would not be regarded as waste. The use vs. waste dichotomy may not be valid 100% of the time, but it does provide a distinction between minimalism and zero waste that at least supports divergence of the concepts.--[[User:BrimstoneSaladWiki|BrimstoneSaladWiki]] ([[User talk:BrimstoneSaladWiki|talk]]) 20:10, 18 July 2017 (CEST) | + | :Zero waste and minimalism aren't the same thing. You can be a minimalist who wastes, or somebody who doesn't waste but isn't a minimalist. Minimalism has more to do with the infrastructure you use to support yourself, or the things you own and use. Owning and using in excess could be considered wasteful, but that's a bit of a stretch because there are valid questions of personal utility. We usually regard throwing a cake in the trash as waste, but not eating it, despite the low nutritional value. Likewise, having a large house but not using the rooms could be regarded as wasting that space, but if you use them as offices, play rooms, storage, etc. even if these uses are not regarded as very productive but rather for entertainment then it would not be regarded as waste. The use vs. waste dichotomy may not be valid 100% of the time, but it does provide a distinction between minimalism and zero waste that at least supports divergence of the concepts.--[[User:BrimstoneSaladWiki|BrimstoneSaladWiki]] ([[User talk:BrimstoneSaladWiki|talk]]) 20:10, 18 July 2017 (CEST) |
| − | Interesting, okay so your comments were a criticism of a kind of minimalist use abstinance only, I guess the only over arching theme in all these lifestyles are environmentalist, but anecdotaly I noticed a correlation between zero waste people and minimalism vs. freegan and those promoting post-scarcity abundance. --[[User:NonZeroSum|NonZeroSum]] ([[User talk:NonZeroSum|talk]]) 22:31, 18 July 2017 (CEST) | + | ::Interesting, okay so your comments were a criticism of a kind of minimalist use abstinance only, I guess the only over arching theme in all these lifestyles are environmentalist, but anecdotaly I noticed a correlation between zero waste people and minimalism vs. freegan and those promoting post-scarcity abundance. --[[User:NonZeroSum|NonZeroSum]] ([[User talk:NonZeroSum|talk]]) 22:31, 18 July 2017 (CEST) |
== To draw from == | == To draw from == | ||
Revision as of 20:32, 18 July 2017
Whilst freeganism can be linked to an abundance philosophy of
treating urban waste as a "natural" resource and approach dumpster diving as a practice analogous to hunting or gathering.[20]
Zero waste is most closely analogues to minimalism.
Critique
brimstoneSalad has written somewhere that he promotes utility efficiency rather than zero waste or minimalism, drawing an example to bidets.
Zero Waste is a big philosophy movement while reducing is more analogous to being frugal, we can talk about how most people who subscribe to zero waste philosophy identify as 'moving towards' and in the critique section talk about what it would mean to try and make a better term for reducing waste more popular.
- Zero waste and minimalism aren't the same thing. You can be a minimalist who wastes, or somebody who doesn't waste but isn't a minimalist. Minimalism has more to do with the infrastructure you use to support yourself, or the things you own and use. Owning and using in excess could be considered wasteful, but that's a bit of a stretch because there are valid questions of personal utility. We usually regard throwing a cake in the trash as waste, but not eating it, despite the low nutritional value. Likewise, having a large house but not using the rooms could be regarded as wasting that space, but if you use them as offices, play rooms, storage, etc. even if these uses are not regarded as very productive but rather for entertainment then it would not be regarded as waste. The use vs. waste dichotomy may not be valid 100% of the time, but it does provide a distinction between minimalism and zero waste that at least supports divergence of the concepts.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 20:10, 18 July 2017 (CEST)
- Interesting, okay so your comments were a criticism of a kind of minimalist use abstinance only, I guess the only over arching theme in all these lifestyles are environmentalist, but anecdotaly I noticed a correlation between zero waste people and minimalism vs. freegan and those promoting post-scarcity abundance. --NonZeroSum (talk) 22:31, 18 July 2017 (CEST)
To draw from
Forum Threads
These were all the thread titles that could find on the subject, will use the site search function for text now:
- the waste debate
- Say no to bottled water
