Difference between revisions of "Talk:Companion Animal Care"

Revision as of 06:58, 14 July 2017

Relevant threads on the forum

• 7 Reasons Why Cats are Terrible Pets (UV video)[1]
• Is “owning” a cat vegan?[2]
• Snails[3]
• ABLC’s “ethical veganism”[4]
• Having pets (again)[5]
• Pets that are obligate carnivores/omnivores…[6]
• owning lizards[7]
• Feeding your pets Vegan?![8]
• The future of pets[9]
• What do I feed the animals in my house?[10]
• Pet/Dog Ownership[11]
• Pet Ownership (Animal Domestication)[12]
• Confinement isn’t always cruel – possible example [13]
• Advice wanted on care of rescued chicken, and ducks. [14]
• Companion Animal Care [15]

Consequentialism

Like this? - brimstoneSalad

Amazing, fank you!

You could also talk about how you think people should always get dogs over cats, as the philosophy section can be a place for divergences and meta-concepts. I've put cat runs in the main facts and information, I'll also include about company, but unsure as UV said:

. . .you can also help to have fewer cats particularly if they are over two years old as a recent study suggested while kittens actually like to have a lot of playmates older cats really don't tolerate a lot of company. - Unnatural Vegan

When you get a chance, UV didn't link the study, but you could work out how you came to differing conclusions.--NonZeroSum (talk) 08:57, 14 July 2017 (CEST)

Activism

What do you reckon so far?--NonZeroSum (talk) 02:32, 14 July 2017 (CEST)

I think we should nix the philosophy section entirely and integrate that content into the other sections. The whole thing is philosophical in nature. We can have a kind of summary of advice at the end in bullet points with links up to the relevant sections if we want. The only thing that should be separate are the deontological perspectives, just kind of showing alternate/not evidence based views some have or have advocated.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 05:45, 14 July 2017 (CEST)

I reorganized things a bit, putting those philosophy comments under activism (aside from deontology). I think we can draw distinctions within the articles between the more calculating "just the facts" direct cause and effect consequentialism, and virtue style rule consequentialism which relies on the psychology of self-improvement and is less concerned with maximal efficacy and efficient resource use.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 06:13, 14 July 2017 (CEST)

I do like that, the thought crossed my mind that first they come for the Deontologists and I said nothing and when they got round to the existentialists there was no one left to speak up for me aha. But I do agree it makes sense, rather than having to give a general overview, it allows us to scrub the amoral schools of philosophy that wouldn't be interested in activism anyway. We should have a few pages explicitly dedicated to the different ethics schools so we can list what parts of veganism they each see as most important to propagate, then we can duke it out in the critique sections and talk pages of those rather than having to reiterate every new page.

Word usage

I moved and expanded talk on word usage to a section on semantics.--BrimstoneSaladWiki (talk) 03:15, 14 July 2017 (CEST)

No problem, that was garrethdsouza's, copyed a few peoples quotes into general themes as examples, but might make sense to lose that bit altogether in the end. --NonZeroSum (talk) 04:06, 14 July 2017 (CEST)