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Should we have one page debunking the easiest misconceptions? Or should we leave it as they will likely be dealt with in various pages like diet pseudoscience and pages on tentative vegan grey areas anyway?
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Should we have one page debunking the easiest misconceptions? Or should we leave it as they will likely be dealt with in various pages like diet pseudoscience and pages on tentative vegan grey areas anyway?  
  
Reddit has a really great table of common "problems/errors I've been hearing with regard to veganism?"
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Reddit actually has a really great table of common "problems/errors I've been hearing with regard to veganism?" [https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/beginnersguide]
  
https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/beginnersguide
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And you guys have had a lot of time to hone your debating skills with meat eaters coming to the forum, and debunking industry propaganda articles.
  
And you guys have had a lot of time to hone your debating skills with meat eaters coming to the forum
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Philosophical vegan resource library - all the arguments against [https://activistjourneys.wordpress.com/working-progress-resource-library/]
  
Philosophical vegan resource library - all the arguments against
 
https://activistjourneys.wordpress.com/working-progress-resource-library/
 
  
•Veganism and “Survivor”
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== Threads to draw from ==
•Things I don’t like about some vegans
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•Fallacious Arguments
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•“Arguments for Consuming Animal Products”
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*Veganism and “Survivor”
•Debunking the “vegan is too expensive” myth
+
*Things I don’t like about some vegans
•Honey
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*Fallacious Arguments
•On-going correspondence about veganism
+
*“Arguments for Consuming Animal Products”
•Having your kids eat vegan a crime?
+
*Debunking the “vegan is too expensive” myth
•I maybe want to become a meat eater again
+
*Honey
•Stupid Things Omnivores Say
+
*On-going correspondence about veganism
•Questions for Vegans
+
*Having your kids eat vegan a crime?
•is eating eggs ethical?
+
*I maybe want to become a meat eater again
•Why I think sustainability is more important than Vegan
+
*Stupid Things Omnivores Say
•Debunking Benatar
+
*Questions for Vegans
•I’m not sure if I care about being a good person anymore
+
*is eating eggs ethical?
•“Discussion” with some nonvegans
+
*Why I think sustainability is more important than Vegan
•Fish
+
*Debunking Benatar
•Vegetarian diet raises risk of cancer?
+
*I’m not sure if I care about being a good person anymore
•Sally Fallon Blasts Vegan Children’s Book
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*“Discussion” with some nonvegans
•All Cells Are Sentient?
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*Fish
•What shrimp?
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*Vegetarian diet raises risk of cancer?
•Killing animals for food
+
*Sally Fallon Blasts Vegan Children’s Book
•I know from experience = I don’t have to listen [bee keeping]
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*All Cells Are Sentient?
•What’s wrong with soy?
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*What shrimp?
•Let Them Eat Meat??? How the Ethical Argument Fails
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*Killing animals for food
•Anti-vegan arguments are weak.  
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*I know from experience = I don’t have to listen [bee keeping]
•”Jokes” on..
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*What’s wrong with soy?
•Officially a vegetarian.
+
*Let Them Eat Meat??? How the Ethical Argument Fails
•Need vegans insight on this research
+
*Anti-vegan arguments are weak.  
•ALL VEGANS GATHER HERE
+
*”Jokes” on..
•Veganism/Vegetarianism Causes Mental Health Issues?
+
*Officially a vegetarian.
•Maybe I should revert back to lacto-vegetarianism…
+
*Need vegans insight on this research
•Why eating meat is “good” ..
+
*ALL VEGANS GATHER HERE
•Problem itself in vegan and meat-eater
+
*Veganism/Vegetarianism Causes Mental Health Issues?
•What ? [research paper]
+
*Maybe I should revert back to lacto-vegetarianism…
•Eggs, LDL VS HDL, the common comeback.
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*Why eating meat is “good” ..
•The good side of eating meat
+
*Problem itself in vegan and meat-eater
•Veganism Refuted
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*What ? [research paper]
•Dealing with anecdotal evidence
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*Eggs, LDL VS HDL, the common comeback.
•Questions from a meat-eater
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*The good side of eating meat
•facebook carnism is coxic
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*Veganism Refuted
•Hunting- Cheaper?
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*Dealing with anecdotal evidence
•That stupid “bacon” response
+
*Questions from a meat-eater
•Eggs information
+
*facebook carnism is coxic
•TheUdderTruth.org
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*Hunting- Cheaper?
•Popular Science’s propagating Pseudoscience
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*That stupid “bacon” response
•The Opposite of Mass Consumption
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*Eggs information
•Organic – Biological meat
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*TheUdderTruth.org
•plants also have life
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*Popular Science’s propagating Pseudoscience
•I quit
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*The Opposite of Mass Consumption
•Immoral to eat meat? –Tostrong4you
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*Organic – Biological meat
•hunting for population control?
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*plants also have life
•Flame War That I Got In About Veganism
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*I quit
•Mark Bryant Budolfson’s papers against veganism
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*Immoral to eat meat? –Tostrong4you
•Why I’m vegetarian, and not vegan
+
*hunting for population control?
•How do you respond to these questions in one sentence?
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*Flame War That I Got In About Veganism
•RE: Vegans: Moronic Uneducated Cunts?
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*Mark Bryant Budolfson’s papers against veganism
•What can we eat? Where do we draw the line?
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*Why I’m vegetarian, and not vegan
•Meat is Unhealthy. Why?
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*How do you respond to these questions in one sentence?
•Nature is cruel, therefore exploitation can be better?
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*RE: Vegans: Moronic Uneducated Cunts?
•Compilation of common arguments
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*What can we eat? Where do we draw the line?
•Why I’m NOT a Vegan
+
*Meat is Unhealthy. Why?
•Is Veganism Elite, Expensive
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*Nature is cruel, therefore exploitation can be better?
•Why I am vegetarian and not vegan
+
*Compilation of common arguments
•Can This Even Be Argued With?
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*Why I’m NOT a Vegan
•Sentience?
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*Is Veganism Elite, Expensive
•Sentience?
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*Why I am vegetarian and not vegan
•Am I a hypocrite for spreading veganism if I use smartphone?
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*Can This Even Be Argued With?
•The Queasy Grin
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*Sentience?
•Veganism as a religion
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*Sentience?
•Do you look unhealthy?
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*Am I a hypocrite for spreading veganism if I use smartphone?
•honest question
+
*The Queasy Grin
•your best argument against veganism
+
*Veganism as a religion
•Anti-vegan article (health)
+
*Do you look unhealthy?
•Anti-Vegan Article
+
*honest question
•Help me make a list of misconceptions about Veganism!
+
*your best argument against veganism
•Inquisitive Barbaric Meat-Eater
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*Anti-vegan article (health)
•Veganism is hipocritical and as absurd as religion
+
*Anti-Vegan Article
•Why be vegan?
+
*Help me make a list of misconceptions about Veganism!
•If all plants became sentient tomorrow, would you eat them?
+
*Inquisitive Barbaric Meat-Eater
•Is Vegetarianism/Veganism Harmful?
+
*Veganism is hipocritical and as absurd as religion
•i think meat might be good for you.
+
*Why be vegan?
•A solution for cruelty to animals- Not veganism!
+
*If all plants became sentient tomorrow, would you eat them?
•Critique of the Vegan Atheist
+
*Is Vegetarianism/Veganism Harmful?
•Harriet Hall’s critism of Michael Greger
+
*i think meat might be good for you.
•Need someone to debunk this
+
*A solution for cruelty to animals- Not veganism!
•Post in response to Vegan Athiest vs MrRepzion
+
*Critique of the Vegan Atheist
•Is the reasoning of animal sentience universal.
+
*Harriet Hall’s critism of Michael Greger
•Why Do You Eat Animals?
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*Need someone to debunk this
•Should vegans not eat plants
+
*Post in response to Vegan Athiest vs MrRepzion
•Plant sentience – A Hypothetical For Vegan Input.
+
*Is the reasoning of animal sentience universal.
•Converting omnivores who have no arguments left
+
*Why Do You Eat Animals?
•Any thoughts on this?
+
*Should vegans not eat plants
•Responding in meat glorification conversations
+
*Plant sentience – A Hypothetical For Vegan Input.
•Vegans Care More About Animals Then Other Humans?
+
*Converting omnivores who have no arguments left
•Vegan activist and holocaust survivor on Reddit AMA
+
*Any thoughts on this?
•Arguments for carnism from moral philosophers
+
*Responding in meat glorification conversations
•Being vegan can make me stupid?
+
*Vegans Care More About Animals Then Other Humans?
•Anti-Vegan Youtube Comment
+
*Vegan activist and holocaust survivor on Reddit AMA
•Stupid Omnivore Facebook Reply
+
*Arguments for carnism from moral philosophers
•Price equation look it up before answering. Non vegan
+
*Being vegan can make me stupid?
•Vegans answer this
+
*Anti-Vegan Youtube Comment
•Depressing “Argument”
+
*Stupid Omnivore Facebook Reply
•List of arguments for veganism and carnism
+
*Price equation look it up before answering. Non vegan
•Vegan questions I can’t answer
+
*Vegans answer this
•Arguments For Eating Animals and Against Veganism?
+
*Depressing “Argument”
•Why vegan?
+
*List of arguments for veganism and carnism
•Not Vegan? why?
+
*Vegan questions I can’t answer
•National Geographic article on the evolution of diet
+
*Arguments For Eating Animals and Against Veganism?
•Mark Bryant Budolfson’s papers against veganism
+
*Why vegan?
•Thoughts on Dan Dennett’s awful argument for meateating?
+
*Not Vegan? why?
•How to debunk the B12 argument against veganism?
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*National Geographic article on the evolution of diet
 +
*Mark Bryant Budolfson’s papers against veganism
 +
*Thoughts on Dan Dennett’s awful argument for meateating?
 +
*How to debunk the B12 argument against veganism?

Latest revision as of 22:02, 19 July 2017

Should we have one page debunking the easiest misconceptions? Or should we leave it as they will likely be dealt with in various pages like diet pseudoscience and pages on tentative vegan grey areas anyway?

Reddit actually has a really great table of common "problems/errors I've been hearing with regard to veganism?" [1]

And you guys have had a lot of time to hone your debating skills with meat eaters coming to the forum, and debunking industry propaganda articles.

Philosophical vegan resource library - all the arguments against [2]


Threads to draw from

  • Veganism and “Survivor”
  • Things I don’t like about some vegans
  • Fallacious Arguments
  • “Arguments for Consuming Animal Products”
  • Debunking the “vegan is too expensive” myth
  • Honey
  • On-going correspondence about veganism
  • Having your kids eat vegan a crime?
  • I maybe want to become a meat eater again
  • Stupid Things Omnivores Say
  • Questions for Vegans
  • is eating eggs ethical?
  • Why I think sustainability is more important than Vegan
  • Debunking Benatar
  • I’m not sure if I care about being a good person anymore
  • “Discussion” with some nonvegans
  • Fish
  • Vegetarian diet raises risk of cancer?
  • Sally Fallon Blasts Vegan Children’s Book
  • All Cells Are Sentient?
  • What shrimp?
  • Killing animals for food
  • I know from experience = I don’t have to listen [bee keeping]
  • What’s wrong with soy?
  • Let Them Eat Meat??? How the Ethical Argument Fails
  • Anti-vegan arguments are weak.
  • ”Jokes” on..
  • Officially a vegetarian.
  • Need vegans insight on this research
  • ALL VEGANS GATHER HERE
  • Veganism/Vegetarianism Causes Mental Health Issues?
  • Maybe I should revert back to lacto-vegetarianism…
  • Why eating meat is “good” ..
  • Problem itself in vegan and meat-eater
  • What ? [research paper]
  • Eggs, LDL VS HDL, the common comeback.
  • The good side of eating meat
  • Veganism Refuted
  • Dealing with anecdotal evidence
  • Questions from a meat-eater
  • facebook carnism is coxic
  • Hunting- Cheaper?
  • That stupid “bacon” response
  • Eggs information
  • TheUdderTruth.org
  • Popular Science’s propagating Pseudoscience
  • The Opposite of Mass Consumption
  • Organic – Biological meat
  • plants also have life
  • I quit
  • Immoral to eat meat? –Tostrong4you
  • hunting for population control?
  • Flame War That I Got In About Veganism
  • Mark Bryant Budolfson’s papers against veganism
  • Why I’m vegetarian, and not vegan
  • How do you respond to these questions in one sentence?
  • RE: Vegans: Moronic Uneducated Cunts?
  • What can we eat? Where do we draw the line?
  • Meat is Unhealthy. Why?
  • Nature is cruel, therefore exploitation can be better?
  • Compilation of common arguments
  • Why I’m NOT a Vegan
  • Is Veganism Elite, Expensive
  • Why I am vegetarian and not vegan
  • Can This Even Be Argued With?
  • Sentience?
  • Sentience?
  • Am I a hypocrite for spreading veganism if I use smartphone?
  • The Queasy Grin
  • Veganism as a religion
  • Do you look unhealthy?
  • honest question
  • your best argument against veganism
  • Anti-vegan article (health)
  • Anti-Vegan Article
  • Help me make a list of misconceptions about Veganism!
  • Inquisitive Barbaric Meat-Eater
  • Veganism is hipocritical and as absurd as religion
  • Why be vegan?
  • If all plants became sentient tomorrow, would you eat them?
  • Is Vegetarianism/Veganism Harmful?
  • i think meat might be good for you.
  • A solution for cruelty to animals- Not veganism!
  • Critique of the Vegan Atheist
  • Harriet Hall’s critism of Michael Greger
  • Need someone to debunk this
  • Post in response to Vegan Athiest vs MrRepzion
  • Is the reasoning of animal sentience universal.
  • Why Do You Eat Animals?
  • Should vegans not eat plants
  • Plant sentience – A Hypothetical For Vegan Input.
  • Converting omnivores who have no arguments left
  • Any thoughts on this?
  • Responding in meat glorification conversations
  • Vegans Care More About Animals Then Other Humans?
  • Vegan activist and holocaust survivor on Reddit AMA
  • Arguments for carnism from moral philosophers
  • Being vegan can make me stupid?
  • Anti-Vegan Youtube Comment
  • Stupid Omnivore Facebook Reply
  • Price equation look it up before answering. Non vegan
  • Vegans answer this
  • Depressing “Argument”
  • List of arguments for veganism and carnism
  • Vegan questions I can’t answer
  • Arguments For Eating Animals and Against Veganism?
  • Why vegan?
  • Not Vegan? why?
  • National Geographic article on the evolution of diet
  • Mark Bryant Budolfson’s papers against veganism
  • Thoughts on Dan Dennett’s awful argument for meateating?
  • How to debunk the B12 argument against veganism?