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Revision as of 16:54, 11 November 2018
Welcome to the Philosophical Vegan channel
Our goal is to stimulate and inform debates on philosophy and science around vegan issues, and vegan adjacent issues such as environmentalism, ethics, and activism.
If you haven't, be sure to check out the forum and wiki. These serve as the basis for most subject matter on the channel.
Philosophical Vegan deals mainly with meta-activism, as a resource for vegans and our allies working toward environmental and animal welfare ends, but we welcome non-vegans for discussion and debate on the subjects too and we hope these videos can be entertaining and educational for anybody interested in philosophy, ethics, or environmentalism.
Beyond forum and wiki content, you'll find debates, philosophical criticism, and collaborations here on the channel, as well as Q&As
We mean to help foster community of rational minded vegans and curious allies on youtube and beyond.
The most important thing is being willing to question assumptions and go beyond dogma to support our values with reasoned arguments and evidence.
We hold that it is reasoned argument, not emotional appeal, that will move the open minded among the intellectual influencers out there to go vegan.
Sometimes not right away. But we can at least put some pebbles in shoes.
Not that we're opposed to cute animal videos, or the shocking ones in the right context. That can work for some, particularly as a final push for somebody who already agrees with veganism on a philosophical level, but it's not our focus, so you won't see very much in the way of slaughterhouse footage here and certainly not without some warning. You might see more cute animals though.
Future Projects
0. [Mirror] Open Letter to Matt
google drive copies
1. How to use media more productively
2. Top 25 Most influential moments for veganism in history.
vegetarian-history
Forum Game/Debate: Most important moments in vegan history.
My animal ethics history blog post
3. Benetar Response
forum thread
4. Anti-Natalism in the vegan movement
Inmendham, OGMizen, various expressions of rational to fatalist amongst vegan youtubers.
Youtube Anti-Natalists
He debunks himself often enough reminding us that his words are just the product of scar tissue basically rerouted brain tissue through long-term depression he’s grown too used to to abandon. Just a negative utilitarian who doesn’t see any virtue in accepting the limits of human control, it’s bizarrely religious in that he clings to the sense that the only meaning could come from if there were a merciful god that would fix all of nature.
Possibly take down of his joke theory of everything essay:
Rational Wiki wrote: Gary Mosher: Physics crank who fervently asserts an alternate "theory of everything", rejecting all evidence of special/general relativity and the double slit experiment. He is also known as "inmendham", and alternately proposes a "destroy all life" philosophy.
Thread-Gary-Inmendham-Theory-of-Everything
critique-of-inmendhams-radical-pessimism.html
Website
5. Freeganism Freegan Practices Explainer and Open Letter to Vegan Advocates
Thread
