brimstoneSalad wrote:I know the kind of parents you have, but it is being funded on your behalf. If you don't eat it, eventually they'll stop buying it and buy you something you will eat.
You might have to be hungry for two or three days until they cave. You can survive several weeks without food; your parents won't make you wait that long to give you food you can eat.
A. Again, just because my parents buy it does not mean I personally fund it. Bad division/composition fallacy. Just because my parent's fund it, I eat it, does not mean I take part in funding it. The same way if someone sells cocaine to get money, and they give you money, does not mean that you sold cocaine to get that money. Starving myself until I get food is a bad idea. I can't get my parents to appease me. Again, it's "eat what's on the table."
brimstoneSalad wrote:Fruit and salads aren't very useful. Nuts, beans, and cooked veggies are better (like broccoli).
B. Personally, if you ask me, then I enjoy nuts and beans. I don't know about anything else though.
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brimstoneSalad wrote:They've brainwashed themselves in another way, convincing themselves that it's necessary and healthy, and being ignorant of the harm to the environment. Try to find a meat eater in your family who admits that eating meat is as bad as smoking, and that people can live perfectly healthfully as vegans.
They're also brainwashed in that they deny the sentience of animals against all scientific evidence.
D. What? No, no, no, no, no. You have it totally mixed up in a warped sense. Meat-eating is not a religion or a moral guideline. Meat-eating says that you will eat meat. However, beyond that definition it is totally up to morals if you are a meat eater or not. This is the same as saying that all atheists believe in evolution. Which is horribly incorrect. You generalize in any type of possible way here.
Problem #1 ALL meat-eaters are not brainwashed. Again, this is like saying ALL atheists believe in evolution. Some simply claim that they don't know where we come from. Totally incorrect.
Problem #2 You need a citation. Where are you finding out that meat eating is bad as smoking?
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statist ... mortality/ Are you even serious? Not only that, but doing a meat-eater mortality check wouldn't make sense, because a large percent of the popularity are meat-eaters. (I mean ALOT! And no this isn't a popularity fallacy, I am not agreeing to it because the majority does) How would you be able to tell the difference in age between an 80 year old vegan, and an 80 year old meat-eater. You wouldn't both are 80. Although vague, here's the problem. There's not much of a difference in age from a meat-eater who eats his meat moderately, and a vegan who eats moderately. (And we're talking about health problems. Physical problems, not moral ones.)
Problem #3 It has been shown that there are 200 MILLION people over the age of 65. To prove my point, any meat-eater or vegan out there. Do you know anyone or have ever known anyone who is over 75 years old? Now what about meat-eaters over 75. My point exactly, this just simply proves that meat-eating is not dangerous as smoking. The smoking mortality rate is ALOT greater than average humans (which most eat meat)
brimstoneSalad wrote:Yes. You will need about $3 a day. And at least a microwave.
I don't even know where to start. I could possibly try. To me it feels so uncertain to become a vegan at such an age. What would I even do for school lunches, or normal dinners with family? What about my friends. If I could attempt to do something then I would, but i'm not even sure where to start. I already have several hurdles to get past. I don't think my family would allow me to do this simply because it's
their money. Religion is a start, my parents allow me to choose that because I have the right to. They cannot force me to believe. However they can get me to eat. My dad isn't going to go lure out and buy vegan food and support an entire new diet.
brimstoneSalad wrote:Understanding the brainwashing of meat eaters can help you understand religion. It all works by the same mechanisms.
That is increasingly misleading. First, religion is the belief in something. Meat-eating is the eating of meat. You see the problem there? With a bit of assumption. I'm going to assume you're adding on stereotypes to meat-eaters. You're adding on stuff like: arrogant, sadistic, supporters of terrorism, killers .etc. And what's the point of that. You're stating that meat-eaters are as warped and as twisted as religious people. Have you ever assumed that meat-eaters feel bad about what they eat when they realize it? No, instead you jump to simple conclusions. That meat-eaters are warped, insane, and idiotic for believing that murder is fine as long as it's with animals. Any meat-eater will not say "I LOVE MURDER, I WANT MORE MEAT." At least not in my family.
Sakana wrote:t's a myth that vegan diets are more expensive than meat-based ones. The poorest people in the world live on vegan diets exactly because meat is much more expensive. Assuming your parents aren't insane, I'd wager that they will be accepting and not choose to starve you to death if you go vegan.
Totally misleading. These people live on fruit only because it is grown there. Thus, it leads to extremely cheap fruit. Many poor places consider horses as wealth. If you have 50 horses, you would be considered rich. When horses go scarce, fruit become the main source. Since food is abundant (think demand and supply) it is ridiculously cheap to no limit. Comparing rich countries to poor countries gives you a different result
