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Re: VIDEO Suggestions / Requests

Post by TheVeganAtheist » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:55 pm

Ive created a poll that I'd love for fans of my channel to share their view on what I should do a video on:

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Post by brimstoneSalad » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:37 am

TheVeganAtheist wrote:Ive created a poll that I'd love for fans of my channel to share their view on what I should do a video on:

https://goo.gl/63Y7IE
I don't think most respondents realized they could select multiple options...

SJW stuff, definitely. I don't know if you've caught any of my posts on the subject in the past year. It's going kind of crazy, and some vegans are trying to link veganism to that stuff. I don't agree with the opposite extreme either, of course, it seems like most of the internet has decided there are only two options. We have the Trump Vegans, and we have the SJW Vegans... not much in the middle. It would be good to bring some Sanity to the discussion.

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Post by TheVeganAtheist » Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:39 pm

brimstoneSalad wrote:
I don't think most respondents realized they could select multiple options...

SJW stuff, definitely. I don't know if you've caught any of my posts on the subject in the past year. It's going kind of crazy, and some vegans are trying to link veganism to that stuff. I don't agree with the opposite extreme either, of course, it seems like most of the internet has decided there are only two options. We have the Trump Vegans, and we have the SJW Vegans... not much in the middle. It would be good to bring some Sanity to the discussion.
Ive added an instruction to the poll to explain multiple choices.

Could you explain what you understand SJW is all about and why people seems to be so polarized by it? Any suggested reading as Id like to speak from a position of understanding.
From what ive gathered, many prominant atheists, and youtubers are anti-SJW. Is there merit to this opposition?
I've also seen that youtuber Steve Shives ratings and subscribers tank big time after he aligned himself with SJW. Back when I restarted my channel (in 2013) I was subscribed to Steve Shives, and tried to model my channel after his. He had many more subscribers than I did at the time, but now I've seen his trajectory is on a downward spiral and he is at around 50k subscribers.
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Post by Red » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:48 pm

That was a pretty good video, my man!
TheVeganAtheist wrote:Could you explain what you understand SJW is all about and why people seems to be so polarized by it? Any suggested reading as Id like to speak from a position of understanding.
It's easy, yet hard to describe what an SJW is, so I'll give a few characteristics if you aren't familiar.
SJW is a term used to categorize super left wing people; if they believe in the theory of intersectionality and are PC, chances are they are an SJW. They believe that people are privileged by race/gender/sexuality, and fight for their rights (while not doing an effective job at it), while not acknowledging that the so-called 'privileged' ones do have their disadvantages. It's difficult to find any steelman targets, since almost all of these people aren't really all that smart.

You can check out Libertarian Socialist Rants for some challenge:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVY0aIaw-V9GbWmlab4Z_dw
TheVeganAtheist wrote:From what ive gathered, many prominant atheists, and youtubers are anti-SJW. Is there merit to this opposition?
Yes, since the SJW position doesn't. If you want proof, just go to Buzzfeed's YouTube channel.
SJWs are pretty easy targets, so they are easily accessible. I mean, this is masturbatory, but I can probably do a better job at defeating an SJW than The Amazing Atheist, even though he doesn't do a bad job.
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Post by brimstoneSalad » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:28 pm

TheVeganAtheist wrote: Could you explain what you understand SJW is all about and why people seems to be so polarized by it? Any suggested reading as Id like to speak from a position of understanding.
We have a number of threads and discussions here.

This was one of the first threads on the topic. It's a bit long:
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1565

I explained some here, and in the following posts in that thread (slightly less long).
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1261&p=18876&#p18864

It all kind of culminated here, where I posted an important video by factual feminist, and an argument on the topic which may provide some insight if you have time to read it:
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1943

Knot posted a video here which may be worth watching for some context on outside perspectives:
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2108&p=21931

I summarized some of the issues here too, and why they're a problem.
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2704&p=27435#p27435
Intersectionality deals both with the privileged/unprivileged false dichotomies (in reality, people have statistically different [not inherently superior] privileges, even along perceived "racial" divides, calling one privileged is not useful or accurate and it just fuels racial tension), and the idea that all of these 'oppressions' are institutional and linked to a single cause (patriarchy) which must be dismantled in order to break down all systems of privilege.

The concept of "white privilege" is in itself a racist and race-baiting idea if you do not pair it with the equal and opposite ideas that other "races" also have their own privileges, and whites have disadvantages as well. Much like the idea of "male privilege" is sexist if not paired with the understanding of female privilege and the drawbacks males face too.
Of course unlike gender (for which there is serious evidence of biological difference), any dealing with race is probably counter-productive. The real evidence lies with socioeconomic and cultural factors, not genetics (you'll be hard pressed to find controls strong enough to legitimize race realism).
TheVeganAtheist wrote: From what ive gathered, many prominant atheists, and youtubers are anti-SJW. Is there merit to this opposition?
Yes, but I think some of them take it too far and kind of misrepresent feminism; there's a tendency to cherry pick the worst examples. Thunderfoot has some good videos on the feminism/SJW subjects, and he's probably the most balanced, but he's also unfair with and occasionally takes out of context Anita Sarkeesian (I don't like her, but it's still kind of dubious to do that).
There are sane feminists. And there are some valid points coming from even Social Justice Warriors (BLM had a great point about body cameras on police), so it's not 100% wrong... just mostly wrong, and the foundations themselves are wrong. Overall, it's very harmful. The opposite extreme can be wrong too though, which is mostly happening with these critics becoming neocons as backlash. Thunderfoot has taken them on too (the neocons), which is nice to see. The same with Sam Harris. I'd also recommend Jonathan Haidt, who seems pretty balanced.

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Post by Red » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:19 pm

Actually, I have a better idea for future videos. How about focusing on GMOs and Nuclear Power? You can still discuss the SJW stuff, but I think these are more important issues so we don't die from climate change.
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Post by Red » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:54 pm

Guess I was right when I said TVA might lose subs. But it's only 26, that's pretty much nothing.
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Post by TheVeganAtheist » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:48 pm

RedAppleGP wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:54 pm
Guess I was right when I said TVA might lose subs. But it's only 26, that's pretty much nothing.
oh, ive lost a lot more then that. I expected as much since I went a year without producing any new videos and a lot of the subscribers I gained that year, probably subscribed to whatever video they had watched and not viewed much of my content.

The day I released my first video of the year I lost 382 subscribers, and then 59 the next day.
When I released my second video I lost 176 subscribers.
When I released the most recent video I lost 144

I essentially have not gained any subscribers since I started creating videos 3 weeks ago.
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Post by Red » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:09 pm

TheVeganAtheist wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:48 pm
oh, ive lost a lot more then that. I expected as much since I went a year without producing any new videos and a lot of the subscribers I gained that year,
I was referring to the JaclynGlen video specifically, but yes, it is to be expected. I know this one guy who had 85,000 subs, didn't upload for 6 months, then it went down to 80,000.
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Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:48 pm
probably subscribed to whatever video they had watched and not viewed much of my content.
I'm pretty sure that's a factor. Personally, I believe that they deserve to be smashed across the face repeatably with a piece of heavy mining equipment.
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Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:48 pm
The day I released my first video of the year I lost 382 subscribers, and then 59 the next day.
When I released my second video I lost 176 subscribers.
When I released the most recent video I lost 144

I essentially have not gained any subscribers since I started creating videos 3 weeks ago.
Yeah, I just checked your socialblade. While you do gain a few subs, more people unsub causing an unbalance. You have gotten nearly 300,000K views in the past month, so that's good!

Don't worry about it, if you keep a consistent schedule, more people will come on by. Better for the people who aren't interested to just leave, right?
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