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Index of Pyro’s Lies

Post by NonZeroSum » Sat May 12, 2018 5:48 pm

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Pyro otherwise known as pyrobotnik / bosspyro / bigbossomni / The Militant Vegan / deadeye / Satansride / DAVEWISHENGRAD / Count Chompula

Listing so people can spot the signs, link this post when he's spewing malicious lies and to save others time from engaging with him.


Vegans are violent cultists

“why do vegans support the ALF”

Hunt sab pulled a knife out on him from 50 meters away after shouting back and forth to each other, and starts walking menacingly towards pyro who was holding a loaded hunting rifle, who didn’t stop after pyro fired a warning shot in the air, and only stopped after pyro pulled out his Smith and Wesson and fired at his feet. And pyro got him put away for 6 years.

Farmer and seller of 50 cows, 20 lambs and 200 chickens a year, who was targeted by the ALF who tried “blowing up some of my farming equipment, stealing livestock and even attempting to harm me and my family.”

Claimed Joey Carbstrong threatened to beat him to death with a baseball bat.

Claims his inbox is full of death threats, calls it a threat when someone asks him a hypothetical. In response to pyro saying “we don’t torture animals” a commenter responds “did you even watch the video? Would you like to be treated like these animals or have anybody you love treated like these animals?”

Owner of a pack of hounds, one of which a vegan tried to have put down after getting mauled.

As a member of the biker gang Satan’s Riders he did time in federal with an ALF terrorist.

Took on the character of “the militant vegan” for 2 months who worshiped Ask Yourself, eager to try and serve all his wishes and respond to his suggestions to create drama on their behalf.

Some are lies he’s likely convinced himself of:

He thinks OGMizen should be investigated over his two babies who died of cot death because he thinks it could be related to feeding them a vegan diet.

He also proclaimed Vegan Gains was under arrest for conspiracy plans to commit criminal acts, and deserves 15 years in prison for the sketches he does on youtube and twitter with the fake guns. The long story reality is they broke down his door concerned for his mental health after he put a bee-bee gun in his mouth for a parody sketch. They searched the house, found knives they already seized last time they asked him to do a mental health evaluation before giving them back to him, but realized now some of them were illegal because they quickly flip out, so charged him. Though they will almost undoubtedly drop the charges or get found not guilty, for not knowing something even the cops didn’t know when they gave it back to them the first time.

His real violent thoughts:

In response to AV protests he writes “I spit on your masks and laptop”
In response to someone asking him about his welfare standards, he writes “you’re welcome to visit me farm well outside it unless you wanna get knee capped”
In response to Peter Singer videos: “Singer needs to be assassinated” & “I’d like to hold singers head under water until the bubbles stopped”


Ethical roundabout

“Eat plants animals house cats or babies for all I care.”
“what authority do vegans think they have to tell everyone what to eat”

Tails of his grandmother being a holocaust survivor who finds the comparison to what animals are put through disgusting.

He’s portrayed himself as a guy who only eats what meat he hunts or only free range, but in response to undercover footage of a pig rything around on the floor after having it’s throat slit, he responds “boo fucking whooo” or to the multiple spiked hooking of tuna fish as “looks tasty”.

And he’s taken on the character of concerned father for his vegan daughter who has started to lash out at family then returns into the meat eating fold, becomes normal again when she realizes she doesn’t have the genes to be healthy on a fully vegan diet.


Other spur of the moment lies

Over a year ago said he’s terminally ill with cancer and uses ASMR to get to sleep when the meds fail.

Said he had a crazy stalker who was an ex co-worker that inundated him with crazy texts one day out of the blue, green with jealousy at his wife, sent him a box of her underwear covered in period blood, was arrested after he went to his attorney and put away for 6 months.

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Post by brimstoneSalad » Sat May 12, 2018 7:37 pm

NonZeroSum wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 5:48 pm
And he’s taken on the character of concerned mother for her vegan child who has started to lash out at family then returns into the meat eating fold, becomes normal again when realises doesn’t have the genes to be healthy on a fully vegan diet.
I thought that was a concerned father? Did I read it wrong, or is that something else?

You should probably post this one your blog so you can update it more easily, and it can be linked here.
Still unsure if being studied will just gratify him. Should it maybe be anonymous?

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Post by NonZeroSum » Sat May 12, 2018 7:52 pm

brimstoneSalad wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 7:37 pm
NonZeroSum wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 5:48 pm
And he’s taken on the character of concerned mother for her vegan child who has started to lash out at family then returns into the meat eating fold, becomes normal again when realises doesn’t have the genes to be healthy on a fully vegan diet.
I thought that was a concerned father? Did I read it wrong, or is that something else?
You're right, remembered he chose daughter, but wrote it in as mother and child by mistake.
You should probably post this one your blog so you can update it more easily, and it can be linked here.
Still unsure if being studied will just gratify him. Should it maybe be anonymous?
I will do, I've posted the link to this page to a bunch of vegan reddits he goes on. I think it's important people are just wise to his antics, haven't linked his platforms or anything, just names so people remember and recognize.
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Post by PsYcHo » Fri May 18, 2018 1:41 am

I think I called him out on his bs once or twice, but I kinda feel bad for the guy. I don't feel bad for calling him out on his bullshit, I just mean I pity him in general.

Keeping track of his alts seems like a good idea, but let's not use the info to encourage people to target him with negativity.

I'm guessing he's had a lot of negativity in his life already, which is why he attacks peaceful persons. Engaging him will only encourage him; maybe if enough people take a small amount of time to gently debate him, he may see that the people he wishes to antagonize are the people that will be his allies in a broader scope. Or not, but antagonist find no fun in antagonsim if everyone takes their arguments seriously. (even if they don't ;) )
Alcohol may have been a factor.

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Post by NonZeroSum » Fri May 18, 2018 9:04 am

PsYcHo wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 1:41 am
I think I called him out on his bs once or twice, but I kinda feel bad for the guy. I don't feel bad for calling him out on his bullshit, I just mean I pity him in general.

Keeping track of his alts seems like a good idea, but let's not use the info to encourage people to target him with negativity.

I'm guessing he's had a lot of negativity in his life already, which is why he attacks peaceful persons. Engaging him will only encourage him; maybe if enough people take a small amount of time to gently debate him, he may see that the people he wishes to antagonize are the people that will be his allies in a broader scope. Or not, but antagonist find no fun in antagonsim if everyone takes their arguments seriously. (even if they don't ;) )
I totally agree Psycho, I've not included any links to their platforms anywhere, it was just that last time he came on the forum as Count Chompula to waste people's time again and made up the lie about a crazed vegan running at him with a knife. I felt like had to let people on Reddit know so they can decide for themselves whether to engage. I talked to him for 2 hours when he was playing the character of "the militant vegan", trying to humanize myself to him, to understand his obsession. I think just we offended him more recently than Ask Yourself did a year ago, but I'm sure that was part of it for him, making everyone tip toe around the feelings of all his made up characters. I did laugh after I put all that effort into asking genuine questions of the satansrider character and it turning out it was him again.

I'd love to have an honest conversation with the guy to understand where he's coming from. I'm sure it is just a combination of things we should be sympathetic to like loneliness and misfortune.

There's also a bunch could learn from him, like their approval of unnatural vegan, how it is essential to be seen calling out your own side, always experimenting and being a vibrant place for discourse and something people would want to identify with. Also the intuitive blocks, like the "nature is metal", world is a dark place feeling, that some meat eaters feel they would be trying to shut their eyes to if they were to go vegan themselves. Possible ways hunting and vegan groups might even join forces to campaign to protect diminishing wildlife habitat, expand and create new reserves, and what rhetoric we might agree on to reach the largest audience.
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Post by NonZeroSum » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:56 pm

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Updated and posted to my blog:


Head's up about the anti-vegan troll Pyro and his playbook of lies


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Introduction

This is the profile of a prolific anti-vegan troll who spreads malicious lies all around the internet and wastes people time with his numerous alt accounts. Meant to help people spot the signs and for people to link out so they can help others be informed and decide for themselves whether they want to engage. I’m not including links to their platforms, real names or locations as I neither want to promote them, dox them or personally attack them.


Signs to look out for

Currently going by Pyrobotnik, bosspyro88 and El Zoshua. Previous incarnations that we know of include bigbossomni, The Militant Vegan, deadeye, Satansride, DAVEWISHENGRAD and Count Chompula.

Pyro is a heavy metal fan sporting bandana and long hair, lover of independently brewed hops, avid video game player, enthusiast of animal predator kills plus human hunting videos and disgruntled worker of sympathetically shit jobs like stacking shelves.

Most habitually he is a watcher of everything vegan on YouTube and commenter of great imagination.

It’s clear the internet has become his main source of entertainment, either through not having the funds to pay for a TV subscription or the only thing they’re accustomed to using it for is Fox News, so use YouTube in the much the same way, thinking that one SJW they’ve found is the archetype of every modern social movement today, or some punks from the 90s setting free mink from fur farms are the number one threat in our global war on terror.

Pretty much they line up with every status quo conservative talking point which says any change must be bad. Which speaks to why they use moral relativism when it comes to veganism; their dark gothic soul just doesn’t want to accept that anything which is easily moved away from and bad for the planet is necessarily immoral to participate in, if it brings some pleasure to the individual.

At some point I assume some sympathetic tragedy befell them like the love of their life dumped them or someone died tragically, either way they started telling massive over the top lies to their school friends to gain sympathy like they’re coughing up blood and posting pictures from medical journals of patients with late stage lung cancer. And I guess when people he knew in real life grew wise and he ran out of people to fool, he turned to random people online for sympathy. So began; I was victimized by vegan terrorists who tried to blow up my imaginary farm equipment and ran at me with a knife while out hunting.

And to really see himself as a hard case, and unyielding hero of his own imaginary story, he loves to write that he lives in a castle doctrine state and eagerly waiting for the day a vegan makes good on the floods of imaginary death threats he gets each day. Under one video of vegan street activists he comments “I spit on your masks and laptop”. Under a vegan philosopher’s videos they comment things like they’d like to hold their head under water until the bubbles stopped, tell others in comment threads that they hope to see their skull caved in, or they’d like to see them go to jail and get raped, or to go commit suicide before someone murders them anyway.


Prolific Liar

His two go to subjects are “why do vegans support the ALF?” and “what authority do vegans think they have to tell everyone what to eat. . . Eat plants animals house cats or babies for all I care.” Here are some of the lies he's told under those headings:


Vegans are violent cultists
• Hunt sab pulled a knife out on him from 50 meters away after shouting back and forth to each other, and starts walking menacingly towards pyro who was holding a loaded hunting rifle, who didn’t stop after pyro fired a warning shot in the air, and only stopped after pyro pulled out his Smith and Wesson and fired at his feet. And pyro got him put away for 6 years.
• Farmer and seller of 50 cows, 20 lambs and 200 chickens a year, who was targeted by the ALF who tried “blowing up some of my farming equipment, stealing livestock and even attempting to harm me and my family.”
• Claimed Joey Carbstrong threatened to beat him to death with a baseball bat.
• Claims his inbox is full of death threats, calls it a threat when someone asks him a hypothetical. In response to pyro saying “we don’t torture animals” a commenter responds “did you even watch the video? Would you like to be treated like these animals or have anybody you love treated like these animals?”
• Owner of a pack of hounds, one of which a vegan tried to have put down after getting mauled.
• As a member of the biker gang Satan’s Riders he did time in federal with an ALF terrorist.
• Took on the character of “the militant vegan” for 2 months who worshiped Ask Yourself, eager to try and serve all his wishes and respond to his suggestions to create drama on their behalf.
• Oh yeah and now in response to this article he declared I had a ticket to serve major jailtime and I’d be hearing from his lawyer, obviously he couldn’t decide whether to go with it being an imaginary civil or criminal case.
• Also by amazing coincidence the day news broke of a famous YouTube personality's house being swatted by fake police calls, he commented that vegans had doxed and swatted his house twice.


Some are lies he’s likely convinced himself of:
• He thinks OGMizen should be investigated over his two babies who died of cot death because he thinks it’s likely a result of feeding them a vegan diet.
• He also proclaimed Vegan Gains was under arrest for conspiracy plans to commit criminal acts, and deserves 15 years in prison for the sketches he does on YouTube and twitter with the fake guns. (The long story reality is they broke down his door concerned for his mental health after he put a bee-bee gun in his mouth for a parody sketch. They searched the house, found knives they already seized last time they asked him to do a mental health evaluation before giving them back to him, but realized now some of them were illegal because they quickly flip out, so charged him).


Ethical roundabout
• Tails of his grandmother being a holocaust survivor who finds the comparison to what animals are put through disgusting.
• He’s portrayed himself as a guy who only eats what meat he hunts or only free range, but in response to undercover footage of a pig writhing around on the floor after having it’s throat slit, he responds “boo fucking whooo” or to the multiple spiked hooking of tuna fish as “looks tasty”.
• And he’s taken on the character of concerned father for his vegan daughter who has started to lash out at family then returns into the meat eating fold, becomes normal again when she realizes she doesn’t have the genes to be healthy on a fully vegan diet.


Other spur of the moment lies
• In 2016 said his health was failing and posts an x-ray from a medical article of the narliest looking lung cancer he could find of a 62-year-old male who'd been a lifetime chronic smoker. And again over a year ago said he’s terminally ill with cancer and uses ASMR to cry himself to sleep when the meds fail.
• Said he had a crazy stalker who was an ex co-worker that inundated him with crazy texts one day out of the blue, green with jealousy at his wife, sent him a box of her underwear covered in period blood, was arrested after he went to his attorney and put away for 6 months.


History

So where did his interest in vegans/veganism start?

We can see comments going back over a year on hunting and industrial fishing videos, reacting to the multiple spiked hooking of tuna fish as “looks tasty”. To seeking out videos on the ALF, also Peter Singer video's saying “I'd like to hold singers head under water until the bubbles stopped” and “Singer needs to be assassinated.”

A year ago Ask Yourself makes a video with an April fool’s joke title saying “I was wrong about veganism,” where he sarcastically pokes fun at the comments from pyro dismissing his arguments for veganism and calling AY a narcissist.

6 months ago he sets up the bosspyro88 reddit account and mostly posts to the anti-vegan subreddit. Every now and then he does a survey of sorts to different vegan subreddits with his main focus ‘what authority do vegans think they have to tell everyone what to eat’ and ‘why do vegans support the ALF’

2 months ago he came on the philosophical vegan forum, got offended a lot, and came back with two troll accounts.

At the same time he came back with satansrider, he joined the Ask Yourself discord as The Militant Vegan, and starts captioning every post on the forum to serve AY out of some strange logic of revenge, because we offended him more recently than Ask Yourself did a year ago.

After doing this for a month, on twitter and Seitanism discord also, and scoping out my personal Facebook page, I talk to him for 2 hours over voice chat to try to humanize myself to the guy and calm him down from this obsession he was spending all his time on. He pretends to be a health vegan who worships footsoldier, says NTT is a perfect argument and Liam Anthony is a cuck for thinking there’s anything better.

Then says he’s a friend of Deadeye, and why’d you run him off the forum. I thought this was just a another troll move at first and that he was claiming to be a friend of people out to get us, but he keeps on talking about it to other people. So after confronted he leaves every vegan server and deletes his twitter.

Recently he’s come back with El Zoshua, trying to play nice about how everyone should be against factory farming and be a reducitarian for the environment, but killing is still totally ethical. We’ll see how long that lasts.


Conclusion

I wish he was capable of having an honest conversation about his motivations and lies, he has obviously gotten himself wrapped up in believing he is a force for good in trying to hold back veganism, and in a shallow way I'm sure he is spreading further ignorance, just a conversation on that kind of internet culture alone would be interesting to have.

Any more stories anyone wishes to add to these ones can comment below, and please link this page out to start a conversation where you think it would be useful. Again this is not meant to be an attack piece, I encourage anyone who has the will and time to try and befriend the guy, help him evaluate his own actions and bring him back to real life, to figure out what he can begin to want and aim for again.
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Post by NonZeroSum » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:25 am

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Included sources to show proof beyond any reasonable doubt:

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