Is the Jedi Order Evil?
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:17 pm
Just watched this fascinating YouTube video about the flaws of the jedi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrfrdzRvIvQ
Some of the most noteworthy problems with the jedi:
-Servants of a corrupt and useless republic.
-As "keepers of the peace", they resolved enough superficial disputes on worlds to prevent wars from breaking out, but did not bother to address the roots of conflicts, and thus were only effective at causing short-term peace.
-Out of touch with the public; the common people of the Republic. Too involved in intragalactic politics, and mostly working with the rich and powerful. Basically, out-of-touch monks who infantilized the common people, and behaved as if only they themselves (the jedi) could resolve their problems and determine what's best for them.
-Antinatalism: this is something which I do think is a huge ethical problem with the jedi order. They forbade their own members from loving anyone. Forbade them from getting involved in any kind of romance, sexual relations, marriage, or procreation. Jedi did not produce children, and so how did they recruit knew members? Kidnapping Force-sensitive babies! Yeah, this obviously didn't help their public image. I've long been astounded at how the Jedi Order's leadership considered love, procreation, and development of families to be so dangerous that it would be better for them to only "adopt" other people's babies, even if it comes at the cost of a repulsive "babie-stealers" reputation.
-Attempted to arrest Chancellor Palpatine by force, which allowed him (a democratically-elected leader) to portray them as a power-hungry group of traitors trying to take over control of the galactic government.
So what do you all think of the jedi? How much of their negative public-image, near the end of the Clone Wars, was correct? What supposed flaws of the jedi were either incorrect or unreasonably exaggerated? Did they still do more good than bad, or was their net effect on the galaxy detrimental?
Would you like to see the Jedi Order become completely abolished? Do you agree with Luke's statement that, "It's time for the jedi to end", or would you like to see some reformed New Jedi Order with different principles? I'm curious to see what Luke and Rey, or Kylo Ren and Rey, end up doing together for the future of Force-users.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrfrdzRvIvQ
Some of the most noteworthy problems with the jedi:
-Servants of a corrupt and useless republic.
-As "keepers of the peace", they resolved enough superficial disputes on worlds to prevent wars from breaking out, but did not bother to address the roots of conflicts, and thus were only effective at causing short-term peace.
-Out of touch with the public; the common people of the Republic. Too involved in intragalactic politics, and mostly working with the rich and powerful. Basically, out-of-touch monks who infantilized the common people, and behaved as if only they themselves (the jedi) could resolve their problems and determine what's best for them.
-Antinatalism: this is something which I do think is a huge ethical problem with the jedi order. They forbade their own members from loving anyone. Forbade them from getting involved in any kind of romance, sexual relations, marriage, or procreation. Jedi did not produce children, and so how did they recruit knew members? Kidnapping Force-sensitive babies! Yeah, this obviously didn't help their public image. I've long been astounded at how the Jedi Order's leadership considered love, procreation, and development of families to be so dangerous that it would be better for them to only "adopt" other people's babies, even if it comes at the cost of a repulsive "babie-stealers" reputation.
-Attempted to arrest Chancellor Palpatine by force, which allowed him (a democratically-elected leader) to portray them as a power-hungry group of traitors trying to take over control of the galactic government.
So what do you all think of the jedi? How much of their negative public-image, near the end of the Clone Wars, was correct? What supposed flaws of the jedi were either incorrect or unreasonably exaggerated? Did they still do more good than bad, or was their net effect on the galaxy detrimental?
Would you like to see the Jedi Order become completely abolished? Do you agree with Luke's statement that, "It's time for the jedi to end", or would you like to see some reformed New Jedi Order with different principles? I'm curious to see what Luke and Rey, or Kylo Ren and Rey, end up doing together for the future of Force-users.