Need vegans insight on this research
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:10 am
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It's a really poor study, because it's a population study (and a small one) which doesn't tell us anything about causation.Our results have shown that vegetarians report chronic
conditions and poorer subjective health more frequently. This
might indicate that the vegetarians in our study consume this form
of diet as a consequence of their disorders, since a vegetarian diet
is often recommended as a method to manage weight [10] and
health [46].
There were something like 30 vegans, which is not a very significant amount, and they were not studied independently (also, these were self reported, so can't really be well trusted anyway).While 0.2% of the interviewees were pure vegetarians (57.7%
female), 0.8% reported to be vegetarians consuming milk and eggs
(77.3% female), and 1.2% to be vegetarians consuming fish and/
or eggs and milk (76.7% female). 23.6% reported to combine a
carnivorous diet with lots of fruits and vegetables (67.2% female),
48.5% to eat a carnivorous diet less rich in meat (60.8% female),
and 25.7% a carnivorous diet rich in meat (30.1% female). Since
the three vegetarian diet groups included a rather small number of
persons (N = 343), they were analyzed as one dietary habit group.
I edited and posted a link, you might have missed that, Dr. Greger covered some better studies in more controlled populations in that video.Unknownfromheaven wrote:Yes, i already said that the number was really low, and that those are not vegetarians, we came up to agree on that at least.
brimstoneSalad wrote:I edited and posted a link, you might have missed that, Dr. Greger covered some better studies in more controlled populations in that video.Unknownfromheaven wrote:Yes, i already said that the number was really low, and that those are not vegetarians, we came up to agree on that at least.
I didn't have time to go through the whole methodology, I'll just say what else caught my eye.Potential limitations of our results are due to the fact that the survey was based on cross-sectional data. Therefore, no statements
can be made whether the poorer health in vegetarians in our study is caused by their dietary habit or if they consume this form of diet due to their poorer health status. We cannot state whether a causal relationship exists, but describe ascertained associations. Moreover, we cannot give any information regarding the long-term consequences of consuming a special diet nor concerning mortality rates. Thus, further longitudinal studies will be required to substantiate our results
- They're separating the carnivorous diet into three categories of healthfulness (by vegetable intake), without doing the same for vegetarian diets. But there are big differences in veggie consumption with vegetarians too. Those were not accounted for.[...] the measurement of dietary habits as a self-reported variable and the fact that subjects were asked how they would describe their eating behavior, without giving them a clear definition of the various dietary habit groups.