Philosophical Vegan Forum

I was watching some Happy Healthy Vegan videos and stumbled upon a video wherein they talked about how GMO's are inherently bad and harmful. While I agree that some GMO's can POTENTIALLY be harmful, to say that all GMO's are bad because they are all dangerous (or worse, 'unnatural') is just fear-mongering bullsh*t. Hell, even things like bananas are almost impossible to get 'naturally' unless you know, you WANT tiny, green, bland, seed-covered bananas. And sweetcorn used to be 1000x smaller and 3.5x less sweet (See asapSCIENCE). Anyway, I think being anti-GMO or 'anti-chemical' is just a waste of time; and I was quite disappointed to see this from Happy Healthy Vegan. What are your thoughts?

The fact that GMOs can be harmful isn't relevant to whether or not they are harmful. Non-GMO foods and water can also be harmful too. There is no evidence suggesting that GMOs are any more dangerous than their 'natural' counterparts. Furthermore, GMOs have proven to be extremely helpful. They produce larger yields, taste better, and are cheaper. I try to buy GMO if I can for the reduced price and to support the production of more affordable food.

HyperSquirrel wrote: unless you know, you WANT tiny, green, bland, seed-covered bananas. And sweetcorn used to be 1000x smaller and 3.5x less sweet (See asapSCIENCE). Anyway, I think being anti-GMO or 'anti-chemical' is just a waste of time; and I was quite disappointed to see this from Happy Healthy Vegan. What are your thoughts?

You seem to confuse selective breeding and gmos (or i misunderstood) these are two different thing. Selective breeding is more of a control over a natural process than a purely artificial one like gmos. It is true however that something not being natural makes it dangerous.

HyperSquirrel wrote:I was watching some Happy Healthy Vegan videos and stumbled upon a video wherein they talked about how GMO's are inherently bad and harmful. While I agree that some GMO's can POTENTIALLY be harmful, to say that all GMO's are bad because they are all dangerous (or worse, 'unnatural') is just fear-mongering bullsh*t. Hell, even things like bananas are almost impossible to get 'naturally' unless you know, you WANT tiny, green, bland, seed-covered bananas. And sweetcorn used to be 1000x smaller and 3.5x less sweet (See asapSCIENCE). Anyway, I think being anti-GMO or 'anti-chemical' is just a waste of time; and I was quite disappointed to see this from Happy Healthy Vegan. What are your thoughts?

Happy Healthy Vegan is full of this kind of fear-mongering, which he also said about Splenda at one point in time (Splenda is fine as long as you don't consume 300 packets a day). If you want some pretty good science-based vegan YouTube channels, I'd watch UnnaturalVegan, there is a new channel I like called TheHonestVegan which uses a lot of science in some of her videos, and many of BiteSizedVegan's videos are education, although she is more emotionally driven.

For websites, i enjoy TheVeganRD and VeganHealth.org. I'd just steer away from many popular vegans, such as Freelee, FullyRawKristina, Vegan Gains, and Happy Healthy Vegan, as they tend to lie and spread misinformation FAR too often. They are the Zeitgeist of Veganism in my opinion.

Re: Unnatural Vegan, Here's the link to her response video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NIgEgtOhlc

Long, but a very comprehensive debunking of HHV's video.