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I'm not a fan, I watched a few response videos from veganatheist and unnatural vegan and decided he's not my type of you tuber (the baby stuff I found very uncalled for and very off putting).

I actually really like vegan gains. I find his channel to be very cathartic. Is he a good advocate? Probably not. Whether or not the attention he brings to veganism is worth it, I have no idea. Here's definitely grabbed the attention of the fitness board I go on though.

vievaisobelle wrote: i really don't know how to feel about this young man and if i should intro him to friends who are mildly interested in becoming vegan yet love the fitness industry. I see how the meat eaters react to him there very antagonised by him and rightly so .

You'd be better off linking them to Cory McCarthy on YouTube. He's got some great videos.

Vegan muscle and fitness also has a channel that I just noticed, not sure how much content it has, plan on checking it out.

Heinechan wrote:I actually really like vegan gains. I find his channel to be very cathartic. Is he a good advocate? Probably not. Whether or not the attention he brings to veganism is worth it, I have no idea. Here's definitely grabbed the attention of the fitness board I go on though.

vievaisobelle wrote: i really don't know how to feel about this young man and if i should intro him to friends who are mildly interested in becoming vegan yet love the fitness industry. I see how the meat eaters react to him there very antagonised by him and rightly so .

You'd be better off linking them to Cory McCarthy on YouTube. He's got some great videos.

Vegan muscle and fitness also has a channel that I just noticed, not sure how much content it has, plan on checking it out.

Thx i'll look them up -- i already sent one friend to see Vegan gains it was a bad bad idea he first took it as joke then when i tried to advocate him becoming a vegan and long term health benefits it turd into a argument

He is toxic to veganism, but I also think he is a complete troll who is just acting retarded for channel views.

ThatNerdyScienceGirl wrote:He is toxic to veganism, but I also think he is a complete troll who is just acting retarded for channel views.

What makes you think he's a troll?

Cirion Spellbinder wrote:

ThatNerdyScienceGirl wrote:He is toxic to veganism, but I also think he is a complete troll who is just acting retarded for channel views.

What makes you think he's a troll?

He's a troll because he often uses a lot of inflammatory personal attacks to bait out responses from people, which he then responds to. It seems to be a highly effective strategy though. It's kinda the same thing Durianrider has been doing, but Vegan Gains is smarter and has a more appealing physique, so the target audience (young men) are more interested in him.

It's also important to remember who the target audience of Vegan Gains' channel are: mostly angry young men who lift weights, and who would never in a million years have considered veganism if their favorite fake natural bodybuilder hadn't been attacked by Vegan Gains. Most other vegan channels would probably just have pushed this demographic away by reinforcing preconceived notions

knot wrote:

Cirion Spellbinder wrote:

ThatNerdyScienceGirl wrote:He is toxic to veganism, but I also think he is a complete troll who is just acting retarded for channel views.

What makes you think he's a troll?

He's a troll because he often uses a lot of inflammatory personal attacks to bait out responses from people, which he then responds to. It seems to be a highly effective strategy though. It's kinda the same thing Durianrider has been doing, but Vegan Gains is smarter and has a more appealing physique, so the target audience (young men) are more interested in him.

It's also important to remember who the target audience of Vegan Gains' channel are: mostly angry young men who lift weights, and who would never in a million years have considered veganism if their favorite fake natural bodybuilder hadn't been attacked by Vegan Gains. Most other vegan channels would probably just have pushed this demographic away by reinforcing preconceived notions

Mainly this^

The way he acts, the way he talks, the fact that he is overplaying all of this, etc, it's all typical trollish behavior. He might partly believe this shit, but I am almost certain that he is just keeping up a trollish persona for the channel views, much like Nicole Arbour.

ThatNerdyScienceGirl wrote:

knot wrote:

Cirion Spellbinder wrote: What makes you think he's a troll?

He's a troll because he often uses a lot of inflammatory personal attacks to bait out responses from people, which he then responds to. It seems to be a highly effective strategy though. It's kinda the same thing Durianrider has been doing, but Vegan Gains is smarter and has a more appealing physique, so the target audience (young men) are more interested in him.

It's also important to remember who the target audience of Vegan Gains' channel are: mostly angry young men who lift weights, and who would never in a million years have considered veganism if their favorite fake natural bodybuilder hadn't been attacked by Vegan Gains. Most other vegan channels would probably just have pushed this demographic away by reinforcing preconceived notions

Mainly this^

The way he acts, the way he talks, the fact that he is overplaying all of this, etc, it's all typical trollish behavior. He might partly believe this shit, but I am almost certain that he is just keeping up a trollish persona for the channel views, much like Nicole Arbour.

your right i was watching a few videos and i remembered this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHfUdf_aX8 , the above comment is right in that ''He's a troll because he often uses a lot of inflammatory personal attacks to bait out responses from people, which he then responds to.''
''It's also important to remember who the target audience of Vegan Gains' channel are: mostly angry young men who lift weights, and who would never in a million years have considered veganism''

my problem is they DONT consider veganism after watching him they TROLL HIM and i think its deliberate -- he is a super troll and he is making money from it

i have been searching online for other vegans who are young males and in the fitness ind. look at himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fugNNvWANTk he is yummy and began and equally as info as VG but not a complete prick . he is harmful to the vegan community look at thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rTzFulbyeg shaming ppl will not help anything