Retarded Black Lives Matter Protesters Exposed

[EquALLity]

^ Looks like we have a winner

My bad, obviously I 'lose' if I don't reply for a few days.

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Well will you respond

[EquALLity]

Well will you respond

Yep, totally.

I have to watch the republican debate tonight, though... I can't wait to see how Donald Trump tries to rationalize to Megyn Kelly why he refused to condemn David Duke and the KKK on CNN.
Even my dad thinks that what Trump did was wrong, and that he was trying to appeal to racists in the south (AKA his base ).

[EquALLity]

The statistical evidence for their claims is paper-thin. You can't just take 1 or 2 cases of unjustified police force against blacks and claim that there is institutionalized racism.

If black lives actually mattered to BLM, they should acknowledge that they have a huge cultural problem. Black people are massively overrepresented in the crime statistics, and especially in the more violent categories.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/c ... verviewpdf

Their movement has nothing to do with saving black lives, and everything to do with getting attention and money for free while avoiding any responsibility

It's not 'one or two cases' of unjustified police force; it's the statistics that show blacks are disproportionately investigated for the same crimes as white people while they use them at the same rates.
Some people argue that poverty plays a role, and I think that it probably does, but I think the racial component in undeniable when in NYC only 7.7% of marijuana arrests are of white people, for example.

To be fair, we don't know the marijuana usage rates there. But I find it extremely hard to believe that white people make up 7.7% of marijuana users in NYC.

Sorry this took awhile.

[knot]

It's not 'one or two cases' of unjustified police force; it's the statistics that show blacks are disproportionately investigated for the same crimes as white people while they use them at the same rates.

Even if that's true we can barely conclude anything at all from that fact. There are many possible explanations, and the police being racists seems to me one of the least plausible ones. If anything, they probably hate the fact that they catch more blacks than whites for drug possession. Potentially having your life ruined by the social justice mob doesn't seem very desirable

An explanation that seems much more likely to be true:

-Blacks are more likely to live in crime-ridden ghettos
-The police are more likely to patrol areas where crime is rampant
Therefore, blacks are more likely to get pulled over, searched and caught for relatively harmless crimes, like possession of weed. Even though weed usage is roughly equal for whites/blacks, this would explain why black people are charged for it more often, because there is a big disparity in the other crime categories.

Some people argue that poverty plays a role, and I think that it probably does

Poverty plays some role, but culture is much more important, because people of different cultures react very differently to poverty. Some cultures will feel sorry for themselves, some will resort to crime and others will just work their ass off to try and improve their situation. For example, Chinese people and Jews show very high social mobility, and are good at overcoming initial poverty. On the other hand, blacks and Muslims have bad cultures (currently, as cultures aren't static) that tend to produce total losers. Both reject the "white" culture of education, and both are ruled by social pressure that's in place to make sure everyone within that culture stays an underachiever. Another central aspect to these two cultures is the perpetual state of victimhood. People who buy into the idea that they're the victims of invisble bigotry will naturally never try to achieve anything in life, but will instead feel justified in resorting to petty crime or to blowing themselves up. In this regard the democrats have done a lot of damage by constantly race-baiting and keeping black people fixed in a victim narrative.

[EquALLity]

Even if that's true we can barely conclude anything at all from that fact. There are many possible explanations, and the police being racists seems to me one of the least plausible ones.

Why is that, when racism is prevalent in the US?

An explanation that seems much more likely to be true:

-Blacks are more likely to live in crime-ridden ghettos
-The police are more likely to patrol areas where crime is rampant
Therefore, blacks are more likely to get pulled over, searched and caught for relatively harmless crimes, like possession of weed. Even though weed usage is roughly equal for whites/blacks, this would explain why black people are charged for it more often, because there is a big disparity in the other crime categories.

It's hard for me to reconcile with that that in NYC while people make up less than ten percent of people charged for marijuana related offenses.

On the other hand, blacks and Muslims have bad cultures (currently, as cultures aren't static) that tend to produce total losers. Both reject the "white" culture of education, and both are ruled by social pressure that's in place to make sure everyone within that culture stays an underachiever.

...What the hell are you talking about?

Seriously, where in the world are you getting this from?

Another central aspect to these two cultures is the perpetual state of victimhood. People who buy into the idea that they're the victims of invisble bigotry will naturally never try to achieve anything in life, but will instead feel justified in resorting to petty crime or to blowing themselves up.

Not exactly invisible when you're being shot.

In this regard the democrats have done a lot of damage by constantly race-baiting and keeping black people fixed in a victim narrative.

I see it the opposite- the democrats are doing tremendous help in acknowledging the racial component with these issues, and the republicans are doing harm in denying it.

[brimstoneSalad]

Poverty plays some role, but culture is much more important, because people of different cultures react very differently to poverty. Some cultures will feel sorry for themselves, some will resort to crime and others will just work their ass off to try and improve their situation. For example, Chinese people and Jews show very high social mobility, and are good at overcoming initial poverty. On the other hand, blacks and Muslims have bad cultures (currently, as cultures aren't static) that tend to produce total losers. Both reject the "white" culture of education, and both are ruled by social pressure that's in place to make sure everyone within that culture stays an underachiever. Another central aspect to these two cultures is the perpetual state of victimhood. People who buy into the idea that they're the victims of invisble bigotry will naturally never try to achieve anything in life, but will instead feel justified in resorting to petty crime or to blowing themselves up. In this regard the democrats have done a lot of damage by constantly race-baiting and keeping black people fixed in a victim narrative.

This was well said, and in my experience seems to be the case. Particularly the case of rejection of education as being "white"; it's a big problem for black students, who are ridiculed by their peers for "acting white" when they study hard and do well in school. Unfortunately, all I have are anecdotes and personal experience.

It's very difficult to do any studies on the effect of culture on poverty, because the regressive left has already decided on its narrative of systematic oppression, and any attempt to study anything else will either have great difficulty getting funded, or even result in expulsion from the university thanks to social justice warriors attacking people's careers for saying things they don't agree with.
Academics in the "social sciences" is brutal, and ruled by the iron fist of the regressive leftists. It is not a place for legitimate science or learning, or questioning and having new ideas.

This is probably an issue that, due to resistance to even learning about it or discussing it, can not be solved.
Any attempt at bringing these things up will be drowned out by accusation of racism.

So, it's a shame to say that the best advice I can give is to ignore it, and stop trying to fix the problem and attempting to identify the real causes. Racist laws requiring more white people to be arrested to meet quotas will probably be passed at the culmination, then probably overturned by the courts, and that's probably as far as this will ever go.
It's a terrible thing that minorities will remain trapped in poverty and ignorance due to these factors, but since we can't fix it due to regressive leftist bullies, it's something that just has to be waited out. Maybe in a few generations things will even out a little?

[knot]

This was well said, and in my experience seems to be the case. Particularly the case of rejection of education as being "white"; it's a big problem for black students, who are ridiculed by their peers for "acting white" when they study hard and do well in school. Unfortunately, all I have are anecdotes and personal experience.

It's very difficult to do any studies on the effect of culture on poverty, because the regressive left has already decided on its narrative of systematic oppression, and any attempt to study anything else will either have great difficulty getting funded, or even result in expulsion from the university thanks to social justice warriors attacking people's careers for saying things they don't agree with.
Academics in the "social sciences" is brutal, and ruled by the iron fist of the regressive leftists. It is not a place for legitimate science or learning, or questioning and having new ideas.

This is probably an issue that, due to resistance to even learning about it or discussing it, can not be solved.
Any attempt at bringing these things up will be drowned out by accusation of racism.

So, it's a shame to say that the best advice I can give is to ignore it, and stop trying to fix the problem and attempting to identify the real causes. Racist laws requiring more white people to be arrested to meet quotas will probably be passed at the culmination, then probably overturned by the courts, and that's probably as far as this will ever go.
It's a terrible thing that minorities will remain trapped in poverty and ignorance due to these factors, but since we can't fix it due to regressive leftist bullies, it's something that just has to be waited out. Maybe in a few generations things will even out a little?

Yeah, there aren't many big platforms for free thought left that I can think of. Youtube is maybe the only one that comes to mind, and even there people are plagued by false copyright claims. Universities are supposed to be the last bastion of free thought but in reality they have been taken over by SJWs and are now just places of indoctrination. You can't really disagree with the teachers because you rightly fear they will punish you. Instead you need to just hold your nose on a lot of topics. I think things might get better once people start to realize that many of the ideas that intellectuals produce are awful in practice, but it takes a while to figure out. It's a lot easier to evaluate the success or failure of an end product that's physical

[knot]

Why is that, when racism is prevalent in the US?

Because the social and economic cost of being racist against blacks is huge nowadays in the US. If someone wants to act out their racist hate crime fantasies, the police force seems like the worst possible place to do so, especially given all the recent negative attention the police have gotten. If anything I expect they are probably scared shitless of having to deal with black criminals now.

It's hard for me to reconcile with that that in NYC while people make up less than ten percent of people charged for marijuana related offenses.

I don't see why that number is strange because it's not controlled for anything at all. For starters, how about controlling for poverty. In the other thread I posted a report that detailed how poor black people were more likely to handle the drugs out in the open. When you're selling and smoking pot out in the street, of course you're much more likely to get caught by the police.

...What the hell are you talking about?

Seriously, where in the world are you getting this from?

I've noticed the same patterns between different minorities who do poorly: the blame for their own bad behavior or misfortune is always put on someone else. I don't know if the left started this idea, but they're certainly responsible for propagating it. Spreading the idea that black people are victims of some intangible racism is very damaging to their dignity and sense of agency, but this tactic is the bread and butter of movements like #BlackLivesMatter. The BLM people are narcissistic, opportunistic assholes who don't actually care about solving the real problems, but just want their 15 minutes of fame.

This clip explains some of the dangers of victimhood ideologies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6E_8wPz7ks#t=10m35s

[PsYcHo]

Just remember that all groups have their share of idiots. Hitler was a supporter of animal rights. Doesn't mean everyone at PETA wants to kill all Jews.