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and here are some from a private conversation we had.

ok here we go: the preliminary battle.
I'm pretty sure it's in chronological order.

I'm not sure what to put in these post boxes. I would talk about the debate, but it seems to talk for itself.
By the way, just ignore the guy in orange. He's just a spectator.

so how was work today?

i cannot tell you it's confidential

no i cant anyway how is your sex life

Oh, that wasn't as long as I had thought it would be.

Maybe he didn't see the threads where we were arguing with each other... which is like, more than half of the threads here.

Cult mentality is based on authority, not critical thinking and internal discussion.

brimstoneSalad wrote:Oh, that wasn't as long as I had thought it would be.

Well I didn't include most of it. If I had the entire conversation, it would add up to a hefty 35 screenshots. They were all pretty much useless, but then again we could be missing some key things.

brimstoneSalad wrote:Maybe he didn't see the threads where we were arguing with each other... which is like, more than half of the threads here.

Funnily enough, I actually did bring that up to him. I told him that we don't always agree with each other because we're vegans, and we constantly debate with each other. He replied with this gem:

death_by_rage wrote: I know you are a fucking brainwashed shell of a human

brimstoneSalad wrote:Cult mentality is based on authority, not critical thinking and internal discussion.

Why do you even think he made that claim? For some special pleading or something?

Anyway, now that everyone knows what's up, I have a few things I gotta ask.
Why do you think he's acting like this?
Why is he so mad?
Why is he making these absurd claims?
Am I in the wrong for inviting him to the forum, or getting in a debate with him in the first place?
Should I apologize and put this all behind us?
Should I say something diplomatic to put him in his place? Or should I be up front with him?
Is DBR in the wrong here, or did we push the envelope?
Am I smart, or is DBR just stupid?
Why did Chris claim the death if animals argument in the suicide post was a red herring?
I think I have a few more questions, but these are the ones I can ponder up at the moment.

Oh yeah, I also can't believe I forgot this screenshot. This was when he asked if he partakes in the death of animals. There was a little more to give it that full effect.

If I stab you in the face with a knife, I'm not "personally" stabbing you. I'm just pushing the knife. The knife is stabbing you. I'm obviously innocent.

He has personally paid somebody to torture and kill animals for him, it's him doing it; direct cause and effect. Hiding from that fact and denying responsibility is for cowards.

RedAppleGP wrote:Why do you even think he made that claim? For some special pleading or something?

He's not a rational person, it's hard to tell what was going through his mind.

RedAppleGP wrote:Why do you think he's acting like this?

Because he's not rational, and apparently can't stand to be criticized.

RedAppleGP wrote:Am I in the wrong for inviting him to the forum, or getting in a debate with him in the first place?

No. You just learn that some people aren't open to discussion, and others are. He's one of the former.

RedAppleGP wrote:Should I apologize and put this all behind us?
Should I say something diplomatic to put him in his place? Or should I be up front with him?

I wouldn't worry about it. I just don't bother with people like that.

RedAppleGP wrote:Is DBR in the wrong here, or did we push the envelope?

He's wrong for not engaging in discussion.

RedAppleGP wrote:Am I smart, or is DBR just stupid?

You were too trusting. He is just irrational.

RedAppleGP wrote:Why did Chris claim the death if animals argument in the suicide post was a red herring?

Probably because he chose not to think about it and attempt to understand the argument being made, and instead looked up fallacies and tried to find a name to throw at you to sound clever.
He probably doesn't really know what a fallacy is.

RedAppleGP wrote:Why do you think he's acting like this?

I agree with you that he just doesn't want to be wrong.

RedAppleGP wrote:Why is he so mad?

His name is death_by_rage. ;D
I think he's just angry in general, based on his rants about political correctness etc..

RedAppleGP wrote:Why is he making these absurd claims?

I think it's his way of rationalizing not addressing my arguments (which he can't, because he's wrong).

RedAppleGP wrote:Am I in the wrong for inviting him to the forum, or getting in a debate with him in the first place?

No way, it's great to have discussion.
And you're not responsible for his actions, anyway.

RedAppleGP wrote:Should I apologize and put this all behind us?

Why would you apologize?

RedAppleGP wrote:Should I say something diplomatic to put him in his place? Or should I be up front with him?

I don't think he's going to be receptive either way.

RedAppleGP wrote:Is DBR in the wrong here, or did we push the envelope?

If he was in the right he would be able to address my arguments easily.

RedAppleGP wrote:Am I smart, or is DBR just stupid?

Both?

RedAppleGP wrote:Why did Chris claim the death if animals argument in the suicide post was a red herring?

He seemed to trying to be suggesting I was changing the subject as a way to avoid addressing what I was saying.