Should you buy plants with less animal deaths then other plant products?

[NickNack]

In terms of harvest/slaughter, there are some attempts to come up with numbers on those, eg:
https://www.animalvisuals.org/projects/data/1mc

Oh I thought the source you posted was only for animals killed accidently, but it also takes into account animals hunted to protect crops?

EDIT: My bad, I've already seen this source but didn't read thru all of it and now that I have, I realize they were talking about animals purposefully killed to protect crops, not accidently

[Jebus]

why does a creature having more sentience mean more moral consideration for that specific creature then a less sentient creature?

Because the more sentient creature would suffer more.

[brimstoneSalad]

@NickNack There are attempts to account for what we know, but for some things there just isn't that much data because it's not a big research topic.

On a side note, please try to delete the irrelevant text from the quote when you're quote-replying somebody. It can end up being a lot of text when a quote contains the whole post.

[NickNack]

Jebus wrote:
Because the more sentient creature would suffer more.
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How do we know something is less sentient?

How do we know something that has less sentience would suffer less?

And even if it did suffer less, why should that mean it has any less of a right to life?

[NickNack]

Because the more sentient creature would suffer more.

Sorry, I messed up the notification thing, I don't think you got my last message, I'm new to this forum.

Basically I would ask:
How do you know when something is less sentient versus more sentient?
Why does less sentience mean less of a right to life?

[thebestofenergy]

@NickNack I would suggesting reading this. wiki/index.php/Sentience

It should answer your questions, and you can then ask here if you disagree with something or you didn't understand something.

[NickNack]

@thebestofenergy
You can make observations of what some animals actions are like and will do, but philosophically speaking, how do we connect the dots between an animals actions and their level of sentience? For all I know, everyone around me could be less sentient or not sentient at all. I geuss this is a pretty hard question to answer but I think its neccesary If we want to start concluding other things are sentient. How do you know anything/anyone else is likely sentient other then yourslef?

And why should the amount of suffering and pleasure some sentient creature can experience change the amount of right to life they have?

[thebestofenergy]

You can make observations of what some animals actions are like and will do, but philosophically speaking, how do we connect the dots between an animals actions and their level of sentience?

Did you read the link I gave you? It answers that question.

If you tell me you've read it and you don't understand, I will answer you directly.

How do you know anything/anyone else is likely sentient other then yourslef?

For the same reason you know everyone else exists, that the sun exists, and that the Earth is not flat.

Beyond anything else, there is empirical evidence that explains and shows how beings are sentient, and how much (it's also explained in the link I gave you).

And why should the amount of suffering and pleasure some sentient creature can experience change the amount of right to life they have?

The reason why a higher degree of sentience makes a being matter more morally is also explained in the page I linked you to.

Again, if you read it and you don't understand, I will answer you directly. But, and please, don't take this in a patronizing way, I would rather teach a man asking for food how to cultivate potatoes than give him potatoes (as in, it would be better if you had a better understanding of sentience and how it impacts morality, rather than having every doubt answered by itself).

[NickNack]

@thebestofenergy
Its only one page right?

[NickNack]

@thebestofenergy
Does it end on shrimp are sentient?