Would communism have a better chance in the future?

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Would communism have a better chance in the future?

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Communism hasn't had too much success in the past, but what do you all think of its chances in a future world with better tech, automation, and less corruption?
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I don't think communism would work long-term, as the right to ownership is a basic human need. Working from "the ground up" (socialism) is a better idea in terms of implementing social policies, and rethinking long-term problems with capitalism is needed. In my opinion, our system should be built around the protection of citizens as individuals and their freedom, in which education should play a major role. Communism implies restriction od some of people's freedom and presents a much narrower framework to work with. It would also require halting the trend of the unit-driven philosophy of capitalism and creating a community mentality - I don't know whether this would be a good thing, I only assume it would be very hard to implement nowadays.
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Re: Would communism have a better chance in the future?

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Jebus wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:27 am Communism hasn't had too much success in the past, but what do you all think of its chances in a future world with better tech, automation, and less corruption?
I doubt it. Look at Venezuela. Their Marxist president, Nicolas Maduro, uses the modern technologies, such as electronic voting in referendums, and fingerprint-identification of not only government officials, but also cashiers, yet the government ended up being incredibly corrupt and inefficient.
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Re: Would communism have a better chance in the future?

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teo123 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:39 amLook at Venezuela. Their Marxist president, Nicolas Maduro, uses the modern technologies, such as electronic voting in referendums, and fingerprint-identification of not only government officials, but also cashiers, yet the government ended up being incredibly corrupt and inefficient.
1. Venezuela is not communist.
2. My question was about the future and not the present.
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The USSR was just state capitalism and we shouldn't be supporting it. Besides, a little bit of capitalism can actually be used to serve the people. While we should have a government to help people out, it's not really reasonable to be praising places like North Korea and China. Maybe as a long term goal we can work towards some kind of communism but revolting now would just lead to more famine and bloodshed. We start by socialising the economy and then we move outwards from there. Just because I'm less extreme than you doesn't mean I don't have values.
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Jebus wrote:Venezuela is not communist.
Why wouldn't it be? Hugo Chavez claimed and Nicolas Maduro claims to believe in Marxism.
Jebus wrote:My question was about the future and not the present.
Well, yes, I agree that future technologies will probably decrease the economic calculation problem. However, I don't see they will eliminate it, yet alone eliminate all the problems with socialism and communism (or, for that sake, fascism). After all, socialist and communist governments of today have much better technologies than they did in the middle of the 20th century, yet they keep failing.
JReg wrote:The USSR was just state capitalism and we shouldn't be supporting it. Besides, a little bit of capitalism can actually be used to serve the people. While we should have a government to help people out, it's not really reasonable to be praising places like North Korea and China. Maybe as a long term goal we can work towards some kind of communism but revolting now would just lead to more famine and bloodshed. We start by socialising the economy and then we move outwards from there. Just because I'm less extreme than you doesn't mean I don't have values.
You are just posting nonsense here. What you've written has little or nothing to do with anything else written on this thread, and you obviously just want to anger us. @brimstoneSalad, do you agree with me that we should ban JReg?
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