I was on Facebook the other day, and I got a friend request from some random person. The person started talking about veganism, and apparently, according to himself, he wants to go vegan.
But, it seems he's using veganism as a leverage to creep. I'm not even really sure if he wants to go vegan; he just claims to.
Here is some shit this person has done:
-said we should "murder all carnivores"
-asked me to send them an audio of myself talking because he wants to "hear my voice"
-told me to post more pictures of myself
-joined the vegan teens group on Facebook I'm in (He's posting and telling people to add him.)
I'm worried he's doing the same things to people he is adding.
There are actually more things he's said to me, but I don't really need to get into too much detail. You understand what I'm saying.
Anyway, I'm hesitant to block this douchebag, because he might not go vegan if I do. He is literally saying that he won't go vegan if I stop talking with him. I mean, wow. What an asshole.
I half believe he actually wants to go vegan, because he is in some animal-rightsy groups I'm not in. But then, that could be a trick.
What do you guys think I should do?
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At best he's an omnivore trolling you, at worst a really mentally unhinged person.
He makes his potential future veganism a matter of how you choose to interact with him, which suggest he doen't understand anything, isn't really interested in veganism, but is just out to terrorize you.
He makes his potential future veganism a matter of how you choose to interact with him, which suggest he doen't understand anything, isn't really interested in veganism, but is just out to terrorize you.
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I think he's either insane or completely legit.At best he's an omnivore trolling you, at worst a really mentally unhinged person.
I mean, he really doesn't sound like a troll to me. But maybe.
Good point, besides, I gave him all the resources he would need to go vegan.He makes his potential future veganism a matter of how you choose to interact with him, which suggest he doen't understand anything, isn't really interested in veganism, but is just out to terrorize you.
I'm leaning towards he's insane.
I'm going to expose him in the comments of his posts in the group. Just in case.
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Looks like we got Donald Trump on our hands. Look, just make sure it's not a troll. The internet it FULL of douchebags who, shall we say, "like tge little ones". This is kinda Harrassment to a degree, and no one should fucking be playing the "mentally ill" card, because that gives people a free pass. This also reminds me of that one time when my friend made me get "Kik" and on my first week I got into this conversationwoth some 22 year old wanting to hook up with me.. Ill supply screenshots at your request.
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He's made it clear that he will only be vegan if you will be with him. It's trivially easy to find some pathetic loser and make them be vegan to be with you; you're not missing some rare opportunity here. 
The best advice I can give you, is tell him that you would only be with somebody who is vegan for themselves, and not conditioned on being with you. Tell him he has the strength to be vegan inside him if he really cares, and that he should go vegan on his own first.
Tell him you'll block him for a year, and then check in on him to see how he's doing, and you hope he'll use his inner strength to go vegan.
There you go.
He probably won't go vegan, but that should give him the most motivation possible without giving yourself to him to get him to.
22 year olds are usually children too, though. So, not sure if that counts. Age isn't very relevant (unless you're under 17-18), it's more maturity level that counts.
The only reason you should care about age is if you're under 17, the other person is over 18, and knows you're under 17, and wants to have sex with you. This indicates an entirely different kind of problem is present.
18, 25, 35, 45, 55... lots of numbers, mostly irrelevant. There are idiots and mature adults at every age.

The best advice I can give you, is tell him that you would only be with somebody who is vegan for themselves, and not conditioned on being with you. Tell him he has the strength to be vegan inside him if he really cares, and that he should go vegan on his own first.
Tell him you'll block him for a year, and then check in on him to see how he's doing, and you hope he'll use his inner strength to go vegan.
There you go.
He probably won't go vegan, but that should give him the most motivation possible without giving yourself to him to get him to.
Sure, I don't know much about the kick or this internet stuff, I'd be curious as to what's going on. Are there are lot of predators on there?RedAppleGP wrote:I got into this conversationwoth some 22 year old wanting to hook up with me.. Ill supply screenshots at your request.
22 year olds are usually children too, though. So, not sure if that counts. Age isn't very relevant (unless you're under 17-18), it's more maturity level that counts.
The only reason you should care about age is if you're under 17, the other person is over 18, and knows you're under 17, and wants to have sex with you. This indicates an entirely different kind of problem is present.
18, 25, 35, 45, 55... lots of numbers, mostly irrelevant. There are idiots and mature adults at every age.
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I told my grandmother to get Kik, and this happened (screenshots please). Luckily, she didn't respond to their messages, because she didn't know them.RedAppleGP wrote: This also reminds me of that one time when my friend made me get "Kik" and on my first week I got into this conversationwoth some 22 year old wanting to hook up with me.. Ill supply screenshots at your request.
"Who are these people?"
So I started talking with one of them on my grandmother's account too see what was up.
"I'm wearing a camisole."
I should have never clicked the link that one sent. She was lying about the camisole.
Well, he did suggest we only be friends. Do you think that's insincere?brimstoneSalad wrote:He's made it clear that he will only be vegan if you will be with him.
Thanks, I'll do that depending on how this friend thing plays out.brimstoneSalad wrote: The best advice I can give you, is tell him that you would only be with somebody who is vegan for themselves, and not conditioned on being with you. Tell him he has the strength to be vegan inside him if he really cares, and that he should go vegan on his own first.
Tell him you'll block him for a year, and then check in on him to see how he's doing, and you hope he'll use his inner strength to go vegan.
There you go.
He probably won't go vegan, but that should give him the most motivation possible without giving yourself to him to get him to.
Hahaha! Well, I don't know. I've been told that all throughout school so far, but the administration might just be trying to scare us into being extra safe.brimstoneSalad wrote:Sure, I don't know much about the kick or this internet stuff, I'd be curious as to what's going on. Are there are lot of predators on there?
Yeah, I agree.brimstoneSalad wrote: 18, 25, 35, 45, 55... lots of numbers, mostly irrelevant. There are idiots and mature adults at every age.
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Yes.EquALLity wrote: Well, he did suggest we only be friends. Do you think that's insincere?
But even if it is sincere, don't spend any time on him. You have a limited amount of time and 'energy'; these kinds of people are vampires in both regards.
You can do much more good elsewhere with a fraction of the resources.
If all you have to do is leave him on your contact list and say 'hi' back to him once a month, OK. But he's going to be more demanding than that.
You have a limited number of friend slots in your life. Jamming more in may sound great, but it isn't; it just dilutes the whole and makes all of your remaining relationships more superficial.
Choose your friends carefully, based on who you can learn from, and who makes you a better person. That doesn't always mean other vegans; sometimes it means some nutty apologist who has a deep knowledge of scripture. Enemies make great friends too. The important thing is how they change you; for better or worse?
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I don't know; I think I can find room for people. I mean, obviously there is some limit, but I don't think I'm near it now.You have a limited number of friend slots in your life. Jamming more in may sound great, but it isn't; it just dilutes the whole and makes all of your remaining relationships more superficial.
With this person though, yeah, eh. But I think it's more of a "I don't want to talk to him because he's a repugnant douchebag" type thing.
That's a good system. I think I do this subconsciously already when it comes to making new friends, I just also need to like the person.Choose your friends carefully, based on who you can learn from, and who makes you a better person. That doesn't always mean other vegans; sometimes it means some nutty apologist who has a deep knowledge of scripture. Enemies make great friends too. The important thing is how they change you; for better or worse?
Oh yeah, I know. I don't even know any vegans in real life. I just meet them online.
Enemies make great friends? Hm, I don't know. What could I learn from that kind of person? I can just look in the Bible itself for that stuff.
Or are you referring to someone who just happens to be like this, but I'm friends with for other reasons?
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I can reasonably keep in contact with maybe a dozen people. The list is practically shorter than what may be possible. Quality of contact falls off fast when you introduce quantity.
In theory, you could do or learn almost anything by yourself, but without enemies and mentors to push you to be the best and strongest you that you can be, in practice it doesn't usually happen (or it's very slow).
Your best friend enemy is the one that distracts you from doing something mostly useless like watching TV to argue instead, and makes you stronger and smarter in the process.
You can go shopping, play video games, or hang out with anybody. Might as well do it with somebody you can learn from.
Can, sure. But there's a big difference between can and will. Conflict pushes you to learn things you might not have otherwise had the motivation to bother with.EquALLity wrote: Enemies make great friends? Hm, I don't know. What could I learn from that kind of person? I can just look in the Bible itself for that stuff.
In theory, you could do or learn almost anything by yourself, but without enemies and mentors to push you to be the best and strongest you that you can be, in practice it doesn't usually happen (or it's very slow).
Your best friend enemy is the one that distracts you from doing something mostly useless like watching TV to argue instead, and makes you stronger and smarter in the process.
Nope, the only reason you're friends with them is because they have a world view you aren't familiar with, and they make you a smarter, stronger person by arguing with you all the time.EquALLity wrote:Or are you referring to someone who just happens to be like this, but I'm friends with for other reasons?
You can go shopping, play video games, or hang out with anybody. Might as well do it with somebody you can learn from.

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Ok, I agree with most of this. But you don't need to be friends with somebody to argue with them, obviously.brimstoneSalad wrote:Can, sure. But there's a big difference between can and will. Conflict pushes you to learn things you might not have otherwise had the motivation to bother with.
In theory, you could do or learn almost anything by yourself, but without enemies and mentors to push you to be the best and strongest you that you can be, in practice it doesn't usually happen (or it's very slow).
Your best friend enemy is the one that distracts you from doing something mostly useless like watching TV to argue instead, and makes you stronger and smarter in the process.
Unless maybe you are just using 'friend' as someone who you regularly converse with, and don't necessarily like?
Yes, that makes sense. Or I guess, who you can teach about things also (especially important ones, like veganism).brimstoneSalad wrote: You can go shopping, play video games, or hang out with anybody. Might as well do it with somebody you can learn from.

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