Video idea: Highlight reel and #namethatprofessor

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Video idea: Highlight reel and #namethatprofessor

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I want to produce a highlight reel ending on the name a professor call out to discuss namethetrait, but more generally for everyone open ended questions about what logical argumentation should we be pushing? How much humility in epistemology? How much psychological maneuvering in the approach? And finally the different answers to these questions depending on whether we're conversing 1 on 1 vs with an audience.

And I'd really like to mention Sisyphus Redeemed as a great person to weigh in as a Professor of Philosophy and make it appealing for them to engage, they're vegan, atheist, big time science advocate, etc. This is a list of the topics they cover on their channel:
https://activistjourneys.wordpress.com/sisyphus-redeemed-playlists/

They go through periods of not making many videos with a big workload grading papers and such, they've only got 4 videos on veganism as they mainly talk philosophy on their channel but they'd be such a good advocate to have if they were consistent with it and intern it might encourage UV to respond and weigh in more on advocacy.

Is that something people would want on the PV YouTube channel (if not will publish on mine no worries) and what are people's thoughts? I don't want it to be confused with an AskYourself response video but it's bound to be received as an attack either way, is there a response specifically to his response to our thread in the works that can be released on video or text before? And waiting on message from BernieBro who's working on his truth table to make clear the possible variations for namethetrait.

Totally open to suggestion on scripting:

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Highlight reel

AskYourself being called up on his alienating persona and argument style by other vegans.

Ask Yourself & Vegan Gains call out to debate the Skeptic community.

FriendEd labeling vegans objectivists to disregard one true morality, Ask Yourself denying this and trying to use namethetrait as formal logic.

PhiloVegan commenting namethetrait is coherent as formal logic only under consequential ethics and asking for some humility.

AskYourself insisting he’s an ontological subjectivist, namethetrait is perfect, building an echo chamber and binging on calling everyone retard and murking.

UnnaturalVegan offering her opinion that PhiloVegan is right that namethetrait is fine as informal argument but not as formal logic, promising she’ll do a video if he can get a professor to agree with it.


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Material

Videos: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8g-aCUkn-onOVhKb3ktZVZaMkE
Transcripts: http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3457

All the video and pictures I can draw from but obvs wont for a quarter of total.

OGMizen - Live with WavyCarbs -Ask Yourself Drama..

Ask Yourself - Wrecking OGMizen's BS live.

Eisel Mazard - Debating the "I Don't Care" Mentality (Vegan Gains vs. Bearing)

Ask Yourself - à-bas-le-ciel doesn't like my reasoning.

Ask Yourself - Skeptic community debate challenge.

Friend Ed - Veganism: Ethical Imperative or Moral Crusade?

Friend Ed & Ask Yourself - Vegan Discussion w/ Ask Yourself

Friend Ed & Vegan Gains - FriendEd vs VeganGains Debate [ mirror ]

Ask Yourself, Banana Warrior Princess & Ask Yourself - Saturday Night Live

Friend Ed - How to Win a Vegan Debate w/ Ask Yourself...

• Philosophical Vegan - Live conversation plan

AskYourself - FriendEd fails again.

• Philosophical Vegan - Telling AY you are a moral objectivist

Friend Ed - How to Confuse Ask Yourself / Hint: Use Logic

• Philosophical Vegan - ‘AskYourself is acting in a way that is painful to see for my own side’

Chris Hines - Discussing FriendEd's 'In Group' Argument and More!

Friend Ed, Chris Hines, Philosophical Vegan & Ask Yourself - Talking to Vegans About Moral Psychology

Ask Yourself, Banana Warrior Princess & Chris Hines - Anti Vegan Videos of the Week

Ask Yourself & Darren - A Discussion of Morality

• New Contentions to Name the Trait

Ask Yourself - Absolutely demolishing Philosophical Vegan

Ask Yourself - Unnatural Vegan debate challenge

Ask Yourself - Twitter calling in fans and summary
Last edited by NonZeroSum on Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:33 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Video idea: Hilight reel and #namethatprofessor

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That would be great.

I think if it states in the description or somewhere that it isn't the response Ask Yourself is waiting for, but more of an overview, and that said response is in the works there shouldn't be any confusion.

I also want to make a Wiki article on this, covering it in detail that can't really be covered in a video.

I'd love to see Sisyphus Redeemed's take on this.

"And waiting on message from BernieBro who's working on his truth table to make clear the possible variations for namethetrait."

Awesome! I've been looking forward to that.

It may be a while before we have a formal response, I wouldn't wait on that. Just put a disclaimer on everything. :)
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Re: Video idea: Hilight reel and #namethatprofessor

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brimstoneSalad wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:14 am It may be a while before we have a formal response, I wouldn't wait on that. Just put a disclaimer on everything. :)
Coolio, I'll press on then, and keep people up to date with how it's going, any transcripts or clips you want me to get from the list for your main response to AY just let me know and will be easy to get at the same time as doing this.
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