Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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The (truth)tables have turned: https://imgur.com/a/rCfVy
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Gregor Samsa wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:55 pm https://imgur.com/a/q2Kwf

Now that's hilarious.

From here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qsHbAWTlE
Jesus christ that guy's a tool :lol:
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vdofthegoodkind wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:49 pm
Gregor Samsa wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:55 pm https://imgur.com/a/q2Kwf

Now that's hilarious.

From here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qsHbAWTlE
Jesus christ that guy's a tool :lol:
Yeah pretty much. I don't personally know symbolic logic to any great extent either so I can't really honestly comment on the validity of theis particular debunking, but Isaac's comments were hilarious either way.
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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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Gregor Samsa wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:40 pm
vdofthegoodkind wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:49 pm
Gregor Samsa wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:55 pm https://imgur.com/a/q2Kwf

Now that's hilarious.

From here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qsHbAWTlE
Jesus christ that guy's a tool :lol:
Yeah pretty much. I don't personally know symbolic logic to any great extent either so I can't really honestly comment on the validity of theis particular debunking, but Isaac's comments were hilarious either way.
The guys 'debunking' wouldnt really hold up to scrutiny either, but ask yourself might not be well-versed enough in logic and end up losing anyway in such a debate :lol:
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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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vdofthegoodkind wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:51 pm The guys 'debunking' wouldnt really hold up to scrutiny either, but ask yourself might not be well-versed enough in logic and end up losing anyway in such a debate :lol:
I'll have to watch it again to see what he did. I have a sense of what he was doing but I think the original #namethetrait argument is too convoluted to make sense of it like that.

I would love to see your criticism of the debunking.
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Yay, discrete math ;P

The propositional logic in that video looks correct to me..

so #namethetrait fails because it doesn't lead to a contradiction
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brimstoneSalad wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:54 pm
vdofthegoodkind wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:51 pm The guys 'debunking' wouldnt really hold up to scrutiny either, but ask yourself might not be well-versed enough in logic and end up losing anyway in such a debate :lol:
I'll have to watch it again to see what he did. I have a sense of what he was doing but I think the original #namethetrait argument is too convoluted to make sense of it like that.

I would love to see your criticism of the debunking.
I have basically the same issue as that other guy in the comment section on that vid talked about. Propositional logic is too limited to express things in natural language. (which non-ethical vegan already agreed to himself)
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Ask Yourself new #namethetrait. video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOgYX6Jqhl8
No one knows why he chose to remove the last video and hasn't responded.

Eisel's warming up to AskYourself in their mutual beefs with UV hit a bump in the road: https://imgur.com/gallery/dGB0E
New video from Eisel discussing Tara and Cory incoming, but yeah lot's of openly racist and racist justifications in Ask Yourself's discord like these:

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Damn...
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NonZeroSum wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:19 am Eisel's warming up to AskYourself in their mutual beefs with UV hit a bump in the road
I'm glad to see Eisel hasn't lost his faculties entirely. There's enough vegan tribalism going on so I'm glad he at least recognizes that condoning genocide is something to break friendships over.

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I love that screenshot by the way. Sure it's true (don't know about the subspecies part), but what's the point in bringing it up like this? It's kind of like your mom randomly telling the neighbors about your awful report card: just hurtful and embarrassing and a source of resentment. Continuing to be friends with people who hold explicitly racist views and refusing to condemn them (rather than just disagree) makes it look even worse. To paraphrase UV: vegan nazis are bad for veganism (and so are vegan racists).
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