Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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NonZeroSum wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:58 am
Gregor Samsa wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:30 am Which video can I find those comments on? I can't believe he says "UV fans haven't given me one single argument" with a straight face.
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The hostility continues...

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https://youtu.be/v2PgusUacFo

1. Ok thanks mate.
2. He deleted his newest video. I saw it though.

Maybe he should change his channelname into "ask "ask yourself"", because his army of sycophants don't seem to ask themselves shit.
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Re: An inflated and fragile ego

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Oh my. Now you need to invite Dr Singer to the forum :lol:
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Lol. Intellectual humiliation at its very best.
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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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NonZeroSum, did you manage to download that video while it was available? I'd be interested in seeing what it said.
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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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brimstoneSalad wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:25 pm NonZeroSum, did you manage to download that video while it was available? I'd be interested in seeing what it said.
Dang it never occurred to me to do so, like the debate call out to UV I didn't download because it's just him obnoxiously talking over the comments he's found which I'd grabbed pics of already. Will see whether it goes back up in another form or what his reasoning for taking down was, tis a bit bizarre, not like we can't come to multiple person testimony to account for what was in it.
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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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He got completely owned in a back and forth with him in the comment section by me and some other dude (his own comment thread at that). My guess is that was his reason for taking it down :lol:

As for what was in it, basically painting a bullshit picture as if UV is just baselessly asserting he's wrong without providing any arguments, and aside from that also nitpicking at some minor things. For example he mentioned how UV called him out for associating with racists (some guy named "cory"), and "countered" that by mentioning some random philantropist dude who dedicates his life to removing peoples racial bias (and thus associates primarily with racists), and saying that UV is hypocritical because she advocates for associating with carnists, who are also "discriminators".
Pretty much just an uninteresting bullshit video that was a complete timewaste.
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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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vdofthegoodkind wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:53 pm He got completely owned in a back and forth with him in the comment section by me and some other dude (his own comment thread at that). My guess is that was his reason for taking it down :lol:
What did you and the other guy say?
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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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Gregor Samsa wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:59 pm
vdofthegoodkind wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:53 pm He got completely owned in a back and forth with him in the comment section by me and some other dude (his own comment thread at that). My guess is that was his reason for taking it down :lol:
What did you and the other guy say?
Basically something along the lines of:

The other guy: "The trait 'being human' solves the problem."
Me: "In before Ask Yourself falsely equates that to an 'appeal to species' and brings in aliens, all the while completely forgetting that Premise 1 takes care of that alien counter entirely, because he didnt want to (nor couldnt) bootstrap ethics in his argument."
Ask Yourself: "You're being retarded. 'Being human' as the trait can be countered in multiple ways like by an abstraction to species, or transferring your conciousness to a nonhuman body"
Other guy: "So you need sci-fi bullshit that doesn't exist to make your argument work?"
Me: "Already showed 2 comments ago how your abstraction to species would contradict premise 1, rendering name the trait invalid, and your ridiculous argument of 'transferring of consciousness to nonhuman bodies' would just make us expand our definition of what it means to be 'human', just like how we consider people with fake limbs still human. Got any other bullshit "counters" in your toolbox?"

2 minutes later the video was taken down XD
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Re: Why is Ask Yourself so comfortable with antagonizing respectable vegan advocates?

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https://imgur.com/a/q2Kwf

Now that's hilarious.

From here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-qsHbAWTlE
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Wow.

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Now thát is a sight to behold. I guess you're ethically entitled to call him a moron now. I've never seen an appeal to ignorance be used to defend a position before.
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