OK, I updated it, I tried to keep it condensed.
Also added years vegan, which may be an interesting stat and tends to be something people mention.
Don't forget Needle Drop. He has a lot of subs, although he doesn't talk about veganism much... not sure what the cutoff is.
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I added in the survey we can send people:
Any thoughts?1. When did you go vegan?
2. How would you rank these reasons for being vegan? (From your #1 top reason, to second, and third; please note if any don't apply for you at all, or if two or more are exactly tied)3. Do you condone violent animal rights or vegan activism?
- Personal health (or by example, for the health of your family/friends)
- Animal ethics (concern for non-human animal suffering or interests)
- Societal/environmental reasons (effect on humans, and existential threats)
4. Do you condone non-violent activism that's still illegal? E.g. theft/property damage.
5. Do you condone controversial but legal acts like shaming (or harassment like hate mail) as activism?
6. Whether or not you would eat it or regard it as healthy, do you consider "freegan" meat (from road kill, or garbage), or future in-vitro meat grown from cell cultures without animal products ("clean meat") as morally acceptable?
7. Do you take or recommend others take supplemental B-12?
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Added Needle Drops channels, I think anyone who is openly vegan it has an effect on their viewers so would be good to promote, unless it's a bad one of course, that's what the disclaimer's for and survey questions will do good.
Survey question and column asking how much channel is dedicated to veganism or would that come off bit pretentious? Or can start up new list just for educational/advocacy channels.
Survey question and column asking how much channel is dedicated to veganism or would that come off bit pretentious? Or can start up new list just for educational/advocacy channels.
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I think having a sense of how much of the content is about veganism is good.NonZeroSum wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:53 am Survey question and column asking how much channel is dedicated to veganism or would that come off bit pretentious? Or can start up new list just for educational/advocacy channels.
Maybe just a Channel subject field. Cooking, Lifestyle, Ethics, Music, etc.
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As far as I know, the Golden One isn't vegan.
I think we should be accurate. McCarthy is a white nationalist, the differences are academic but I don't want to have anything in there people don't agree represents them.
Vegetable Police has regretted his Nazi stuff. I think he admitted to being an idiot.
It's also controversial that PETA is sexist, they are mostly women and I don't think they're sexist, they just exploit sex to get attention (which can be empowering too), they're just shameless "press whores".
Happy Healthy Vegan, I think the bigger concern is that they don't actually watch videos before they respond to them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B2VHEYxUVs
The level of laziness and intellectual dishonesty there is something we haven't seen since the days of Vegan Cheetah.
If we pointed out health Woo it would be half the channels.
I think we should be accurate. McCarthy is a white nationalist, the differences are academic but I don't want to have anything in there people don't agree represents them.
Vegetable Police has regretted his Nazi stuff. I think he admitted to being an idiot.
It's also controversial that PETA is sexist, they are mostly women and I don't think they're sexist, they just exploit sex to get attention (which can be empowering too), they're just shameless "press whores".
Happy Healthy Vegan, I think the bigger concern is that they don't actually watch videos before they respond to them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B2VHEYxUVs
The level of laziness and intellectual dishonesty there is something we haven't seen since the days of Vegan Cheetah.
If we pointed out health Woo it would be half the channels.
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The Golden One and Stef Sanjati are both examples of vegans in principle, advocating veganism on youtube and involved in the discussions there in.
Kk, fascist is that general corner of the spectrum.brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:12 pmI think we should be accurate. McCarthy is a white nationalist, the differences are academic but I don't want to have anything in there people don't agree represents them.
Conspiracy theorist then?brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:12 pmVegetable Police has regretted his Nazi stuff. I think he admitted to being an idiot.
Yea don't want to get back into definitions about latency or overt again, so can leave it out. Conflict theory tells me replicating exactly the mainstream material that sees women as objects isn't empowering, like the difference between strip clubs and burlesque, or sex workers making their own hustle and a sleazy porn script. Highly skeptical of spectacle where it isn't spontaneous or ironic.It's also controversial that PETA is sexist, they are mostly women and I don't think they're sexist, they just exploit sex to get attention (which can be empowering too), they're just shameless "press whores".
That is really sad.Happy Healthy Vegan, I think the bigger concern is that they don't actually watch videos before they respond to them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B2VHEYxUVs
The level of laziness and intellectual dishonesty there is something we haven't seen since the days of Vegan Cheetah.
Aye fair enough aha, removed as well. It's good the disclaimers main purpose will likely be to provoke discussion, it might have the opposite intended effect of driving a bit more interest to the channels from interesting titbit, but still worth coming to consensus on some important notes.brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:12 pmIf we pointed out health Woo it would be half the channels.
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Didn't realize she quit, that's a shame.NonZeroSum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:07 amThe Golden One and Stef Sanjati are both examples of vegans in principle, advocating veganism on youtube and involved in the discussions there in.
If we include non-vegans who have said some good things about and promoted veganism as ethical, I'm afraid the list will grow out of hand very, very quickly.
Limiting to people who are vegan and have talked about veganism is probably the only way to keep it manageable.
That's probably accurate.
Another case of we might have to add that to half the people there.
Maybe "Former Nazi"?
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Ok let's boot Goldenboy but I'll include 'Balaclava Küche,' don't want it to appear like we're hiding the neo-nazi hipster douches.brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:45 am Limiting to people who are vegan and have talked about veganism is probably the only way to keep it manageable.
Might have been too fast to cast aspersions on Stef, they haven't said anything about it in months, but at the end of the month challenge they asked for more advice and said they wanted to continue even if they didn't manage perfectly.
Former Nazi it is.brimstoneSalad wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:45 amAnother case of we might have to add that to half the people there.
Maybe "Former Nazi"?
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Does he do English language videos? (we should probably limit it to people who do as another practical limitation, there are huge numbers of non-English vegans and I can't even understand most of them).NonZeroSum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:03 am Ok let's boot Goldenboy but I'll include 'Balaclava Küche,' don't want it to appear like we're hiding the neo-nazi hipster douches.
Maybe we can make a non-English language vegan page.
For English language Nazi vegans, there's also Vegan Reich.
I would definitely assume she's vegan until she indicates otherwise, particularly if people like Orlin are on the list (who I seriously doubt is vegan even by dietary standards anymore, and I think has said that he does not identify as such anymore in the past, long before the Nicocado fiasco).NonZeroSum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:03 am Might have been too fast to cast aspersions on Stef, they haven't said anything about it in months, but at the end of the month challenge they asked for more advice and said they wanted to continue even if they didn't manage perfectly.
Repzion did a month vegan thing, and said after that he's not going vegan right now because of school and cheese, but he might go vegetarian at some point and said vegan wasn't impossible. I would think Stef would have updated us, since I don't think she meant it to only be explicitly limited to a month.