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Can you provide me with a list or some examples of scientists and doctors who encourage veganism and healthy diets ?

Someone just mentioned to me that scientists and doctors do promote meat. :-< its kinda of a debate.
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I'm not sure why it matters what some vague notion of 'doctors and scientists' might be saying about nutrition. They're not necessarily experts on nutrition, and it doesn't sound like this person even provided any 'doctors and scientists' who encourage meat eating (though some obviously do).

And 'doctors and scientists' of what?
Neil deGrasse Tyson is a really amazing scientist... But why would you go to him for nutritional advice? :?

It matters more what dietitians say, because they are actual nutrition experts.
Jack Norris- http://www.veganhealth.org/
Ginny Kisch Messina- http://www.theveganrd.com/about
There's also this- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864

And then just facts about meat. It contains saturated fat and dietary cholesterol, which increase your blood cholesterol etc..
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EquALLity wrote:I'm not sure why it matters what some vague notion of 'doctors and scientists' might be saying about nutrition. They're not necessarily experts on nutrition, and it doesn't sound like this person even provided any 'doctors and scientists' who encourage meat eating (though some obviously do).

And 'doctors and scientists' of what?
Neil deGrasse Tyson is a really amazing scientist... But why would you go to him for nutritional advice? :?

It matters more what dietitians say, because they are actual nutrition experts.
Jack Norris- http://www.veganhealth.org/
Ginny Kisch Messina- http://www.theveganrd.com/about
There's also this- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864

And then just facts about meat. It contains saturated fat and dietary cholesterol, which increase your blood cholesterol etc..
Thank you so much!
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^You're welcome! :D
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HE said

”Fanex Buster Nu e sanatos sa renunti la carne deoarece organismul nostru inca nu e evoluat pentru asa ceva :)Chiar daca noi vrem. Si nu o spun de la mine. O spun oameni de stiinta si nutritionisti.
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”That is not healthy to dismiss meat because our organism is not yet evolved for something like this.. even if we want to, and i am not saying this, there are scientists and nutritionists.”

This i why i asked you guys, i became vegetarian on ethical reasons and honest i did not done many research on it since i was feeling very good with my diet..its not until recently i became interested in veganism and did watched all TVA videos about it.

Thanks
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^'Nutritionist' isn't really an important term either. From my understanding, anybody can identify as a 'nutritionist'. There's no real education required to be one.

That is what he originally said, right?
How did he respond to the information I posted?

PS I can only see the figure in your profile picture as a cylinder...
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Unknownfromheaven wrote:HE said

”Fanex Buster Nu e sanatos sa renunti la carne deoarece organismul nostru inca nu e evoluat pentru asa ceva :)Chiar daca noi vrem. Si nu o spun de la mine. O spun oameni de stiinta si nutritionisti.
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”That is not healthy to dismiss meat because our organism is not yet evolved for something like this.. even if we want to, and i am not saying this, there are scientists and nutritionists.”
Here's the translated version of the "Position of the American Dietetic Association and Dieticians of Canada: Vegetarian Diets” (from http://www.veganoutreach.org/decevegan/sanatate.html):
Dietele "vegan" [pur-vegetariene] si alte tipuri de diete vegetariene bine-planificate sunt potrivite pentru toate stagiile vietii, inclusiv in timpul sarcinii, lactatiei, primilor ani de viata, copilariei si adolescentei. Dietele vegetariene ofera un numar de beneficii nutritionale, inclusiv nivele scazute de grasime saturata, colesterol si proteina animala cat si nivele mai ridicate de carbohidrati, fibra, magneziu, potasiu, vitamina Bc si antioxidanti cum ar fi vitaminele C si E si fotochimicale. S-a aratat ca vegetarienii au un index de masa corporala mai scazut decat nonvegetarienii, cat si rata de deces din cauza bolilor cardiace ischemice mai scazuta; de asemenea, vegetarienii au nivele de colesterol in sange mai scazute; tensiune mai scazuta; si rate de hipertensiune, diabet de tip 2 si cancer la prostata si colon mai scazute.
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EquALLity wrote:^'Nutritionist' isn't really an important term either. From my understanding, anybody can identify as a 'nutritionist'. There's no real education required to be one.

That is what he originally said, right?
How did he respond to the information I posted?

PS I can only see the figure in your profile picture as a cylinder...
He did not replied.

Anyway i posted another link with Sam Harris, a video posted by TVA and he is a scientist, since he invoked science somehow..i guess that is because even i encountered scientific resources ”sciencealert / ifl” regarding, bacon, meat or any other bs. and that could influence some peers since they accept all that it is as legit without further research.
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inator wrote: You can show him the “Position of the American Dietetic Association and Dieticians of Canada: Vegetarian Diets”
Thank you greatly.
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EquALLity wrote: PS I can only see the figure in your profile picture as a cylinder...

Perhaps this will help:) , https://www.google.ro/search?hl=en-RO&q ... 55&bih=726
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