Vegan Ecovillage!

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Lomedin
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Vegan Ecovillage!

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:!:
I just discovered it, apparently the website was creates only a few days ago.
it is a project for a self-sustainable VEGAN ecovillage!

http://www.veganos.community/
Cirion Spellbinder
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Re: Vegan Ecovillage!

Post by Cirion Spellbinder »

Interesting... I'm wondering how it plans on generating energy. I hope they play their cards correctly.
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brimstoneSalad
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Re: Vegan Ecovillage!

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Thanks for posting (and welcome!). Sorry about all of the trolls here, since this is a lightly moderated forum and basically a free speech zone (mostly), there's not much we can do about them without destroying the principle than theists and carnists can come here to discuss openly and learn without fear of banning.

That said, this ecovillage is making a lot of really serious rookie mistakes (unfortunately).

http://www.veganos.community/about.html
The community will be always open to everyone
Nice in theory, but terrible idea in practice. When you're dealing with shared living and limited resources, you have to be discerning about who you let in, in terms of personality, mental health, ideological compatibility, as well as competence and motivation.

This forum can be open to anybody (with basic English skills, and following a few simple rules that don't discriminate based on religion, etc.) because it is a discussion forum, and we thrive on debate. A communal situation is something different, and you really do need a strong shared central ideology and basic foundation to function.
And when you're dealing with actual resources (it's virtually free to have more members join here, and they don't consume anything by participating), you have to be even more discerning in terms of competence metrics.
The community will share food, tools and resources for free
This is possible if you have a strict hierarchy and strong standards for who you let into the community. Given the first point, this just makes it worse.
Everyone in the community is equal, there is no hierarchy and everyone contributes in the decision making
Unfortunately, also a terrible idea. Communities succeed or fail based on competent leadership, and often that means making the tough decisions that not everybody agrees with. Meritocracy works, blind democracy (or even worse, consensus) doesn't -- particularly if the community is open and lets anybody in.
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