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I'm new here and I am hoping to learn more about the topics that are discussed here and from this hopefully not make a fool out of myself with stereotypical (ideas sayings thoughts? i have no idea sorry.) Also i have a small problem of talking to much and wont notice. A brief summary of what i am is (and i hope I'm actually thinking that i am what i am.) Agnostic atheist and primarily eat meat. If ive gotten anything wrong through this tell me please, and sorry.
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Hey Shepherd, sorry no one responded, if you still lerk round the forums and want to post, we'd be happy to have you. How did you hear about the forum? are you interested in discussing veganism because you are an atheist and like approaching subjects logically? Nothing to apologize about, you are very welcome here.
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If you click on the name, it says that he has not visited the forum for more than a year.
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That's why I said 'lerk' - as in 'spectate' - what's the point in logging in if you don't intend to post and when you do no one responds? I remember visiting the site a few times on UV's mentioning of it before I registered, if they are ever reminded of the site and want to see if someone ever got round to replying I'd like to leave a friendly message for such eventuality. Their message came across as self conscious so I empathised and took a shot at what is likely a fruitless exercise or could not be, sue me aha.
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Okey dokey
That's why I said 'lerk' - as in 'spectate'
What's the difference between 'lurk' and 'lerk'?
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DarlBundren wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:40 am
That's why I said 'lerk' - as in 'spectate'
What's the difference between 'lurk' and 'lerk'?
Aha that's funny no difference except I accidentally spelt it phonetically to my native scouse/welsh accent. Something to do with us liking our consonants 'softer' so doing the work of many varying vowel sounds, so explicit vowel letters become simple singular joiners (Monophthongization). So in my head I accentuated the k and turned the ur into a simple e.
The ‘slit t’ is part of a greater phenomenon called lenition, whereby stop consonants becomes ‘weaker’ or ‘softer.’ In Scouse, lenition not only affects /t/, but extends to /k/ (which can become the /x/ sound in Scottish loch) and /p/ (which can become the /ɸ/ sound heard in Japanese Fuji).
http://dialectblog.com/2011/08/04/the-scouse-t/

The proper queens English = [lɜ:k]

[ɜ] = ur
http://rachelsenglish.com/english-pronounce-ur-vowel/
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Thanks.
Actually, I know a couple of things about linguistics, and it makes sense. I just thought my gen-y internet slang was not up-to-date.
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Yes that's the first place I went to urban dictionary aha, I was like why would lerk be spelt with ur, till I realised it must just be my pronunciation.

We have tons of words like that in Liverpool, old ladies are affectionatly called 'twerlies' for pretending to wait around for the cheaper busses after rush hour and smoothing over drivers by pleading 'are we too early?'

If you like linguistics you'd have a field day with Welsh (Cymraeg)


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We have tons of words like that in Liverpool, old ladies are affectionatly called 'twerlies' for pretending to wait around for the cheaper busses after rush hour and smoothing over drivers by pleading 'are we too early?'
Ah, I love it. I tried to look it up on google and there's a poem dedicated to them. https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-twerlies/
If you like linguistics you'd have a field day with Welsh (Cymraeg)
I know how to read phonetics, but as a non-native speaker, a recording would be much better. :D
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DarlBundren wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:27 pm
We have tons of words like that in Liverpool, old ladies are affectionatly called 'twerlies' for pretending to wait around for the cheaper busses after rush hour and smoothing over drivers by pleading 'are we too early?'
Ah, I love it. I tried to look it up on google and there's a poem dedicated to them. https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-twerlies/
That was really lovely, showed me mam who shared it round the family, some had seen and some was a new delight.

This is a jokes video that will give you an idea of the accent - Scouse Fireman Sam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SufQOFTDP6g

Oh wow this went viral, 2.6 million hits - Funny liverpool accent of this amazing girl - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWAUrHODRWM
If you like linguistics you'd have a field day with Welsh (Cymraeg)
I know how to read phonetics, but as a non-native speaker, a recording would be much better. :D
Here you go:
Welsh anthem (Land of my fathers) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kUnCwV3AYE

It's a labor of love the language, mutations wherever you go in the country that change the entire beginnings and ends of words, I read it's more closely linked to Saxon languages than the original Celtic because of the uniting of the realms under the Saxon dynasties, Scots were never fully conquered so their Gaelic held out, and then English is Germanic from the Anglo settlers and a whole mix of Latin and other from various trade and conquest mainly with France.

Rhod Gilbert Learning Welsh - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvScUgHcA8Y
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