Viktorius_the_Third wrote:
and i think tj has the right thoughts... he is just not into animals and the related topics!
It's one thing if somebody just avoids a topic and doesn't know anything about it, doesn't discuss it, etc. - it's quite another thing to do what he does, spouting provocative ignorance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIacX8rPoKw
Did you see this video response?
What TJ did in that video was not just "not into animals"; he's venomously antagonistic to those who are, and he's going through a lot of trouble to provoke and produce irrational arguments against it.
I know people who don't care about animals; they don't have to make up stuff, or rationalize it, because they're unapologetic hedonists. They also don't care about slavery, people dying of AIDS in other countries, people with cancer, etc. They're just self involved, and they admit that the only thing they care about is themselves, and their immediate friends and family.
I don't like it, but it is honest- and while as counterproductive to happiness as drug abuse, it's not inherently irrational in the way that TJ's arguments have been as long as they see it for what it is.
TJ wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to be both vocal and ignorant- it's a combination that makes him subject to criticism, and rightly so.
Viktorius_the_Third wrote:by the way: by "awareness" i didnt mean the awareness of the animals! i meant his awareness! if you are told since your birth that blue is called red, you will ALWAYS! call it red. until one guy tells you... then you say hes stupid. then the next guy comes around. then you start thinking about it. and after times you try to defend your point of view. everyone else thinks that you are crazy for calling blue red. but you KNOW its red youve seen it with your own eyes... ^_^
on and on... its normal to struggle...
Do you mean he has said this himself?
That's the same reason people believe in god, or any other irrational thing.
TJ can't hide behind ignorance when he criticizes other people for doing the same.
Viktorius_the_Third wrote:
and i think if he had a vegan friend like me where he could see me living vegan without missing anything... and answering questions if needed... i think he would change!
He and Jaclyn Glenn are friends.
She used to be vegan, although I'm not sure if she still is. She doesn't seem to care much about veganism anymore.
Viktorius_the_Third wrote:
BUT there is one human trait that may interrupt:
the fear of beeing wrong! most people cant stand beeing wrong... and to acknowledge that you are wrong for a lifetime... is often to much for many people.-..
I understand that, but that doesn't make him any better than the creationists who are also afraid of having been wrong about evolution and god this whole time. They've all put their feet in it, and now they can't take them back out again.
It's the mark of an irrational, closed mind.
It's human nature to be wrong now and then; I'm wrong every now and then. Less now than I used to be, because I changed my mind when I was corrected- which is the only way to stop being wrong. I like being the least wrong I can possibly be.
TJ is averse to changing his mind- which is what makes him irrational.
He had to have an emotional experience at the death of his father just to switch political views. That's not a rational person. A rational person changes his or her views because of a good argument, and doesn't need somebody close to them to die to give them permission to change them for emotional reasons.
Can TJ become rational? I'm not sure.
It's not just software, but a firmware update at the very least. He needs to radically change the way he thinks and addresses controversial problems, rather than grappling onto whatever position is closest to supporting his current behavior and trying to rationalize it, he needs to start challenging himself more and using his brain to understand objective reality outside of his bubble of personal rhetoric.
I hope he does.