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Re: VIDEO Suggestions / Requests

Post by TheVeganAtheist » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:12 pm

RedAppleGP wrote:
TheVeganAtheist wrote: Which video of Jaclynglenn are you speaking of?
This piece of trash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANDMQ1YhbP4
I know that she was featured in one of your videos, but I think we can all agree that this can't fly. She seems to be more interested in views in the past few months from what I've seen.

We're pretty sure you can handle it, but we can give you some pointers if you need 'em!

Thanks I will take a look at it.

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Post by miniboes » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:26 pm

RedAppleGP wrote:
TheVeganAtheist wrote: Which video of Jaclynglenn are you speaking of?
This piece of trash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANDMQ1YhbP4
I know that she was featured in one of your videos, but I think we can all agree that this can't fly. She seems to be more interested in views in the past few months from what I've seen.

We're pretty sure you can handle it, but we can give you some pointers if you need 'em!
To be honest I don't think we need tva to tackle this ; UV has done a great job already and by now the video is pretty old

That said, I can't wait for your comeback, TVA!
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Post by EquALLity » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:30 pm

TheVeganAtheist wrote:
RedAppleGP wrote:
TheVeganAtheist wrote: Which video of Jaclynglenn are you speaking of?
This piece of trash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANDMQ1YhbP4
I know that she was featured in one of your videos, but I think we can all agree that this can't fly. She seems to be more interested in views in the past few months from what I've seen.

We're pretty sure you can handle it, but we can give you some pointers if you need 'em!

Thanks I will take a look at it.

My new video is now live:

https://youtu.be/OjpKDqQb1Xk
Nice video. :)
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Post by Lightningman_42 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:29 pm

Liked it too. Looking forward to more content. :D
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Post by brimstoneSalad » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:19 pm

TheVeganAtheist wrote: Please catch me up on some of the highlights. Which video of Jaclynglenn are you speaking of? Any other videos I should take a look at?
That's the only big Atheism AND veganism related thing that went down as far as I know.

As Lightningman_42 said (previously Armored Abolitionist), it's already been covered, so it may be useful to watch those videos too, and see what additional arguments or insight you could add, or maybe expand on some points.
I think the biggest issue to tackle is the nihilism they expressed. Unnatural vegan touched on that a tiny bit.

The Drama in the "Vegan Youtube Community" exploded. Some clown named Durianriders who had a lot of followers melted down and went insane, and the whole raw til' 4 thing is falling apart with more people speaking out against it. That's more nutrition related than ethical/philosophical though. It made the news, and so did Nicocado Avocado's very dramatic turn away from veganism and subsequent bashing of veganism as a cult etc.

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Post by brimstoneSalad » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:21 pm

Lightningman_42 wrote:As much as I'd enjoy seeing that, I'm not sure how useful it would be, in terms of getting her fans to understand what's wrong with her drivel. Unnatural Vegan, Vegan Gains, Think About This, and Ask Yourself have already made response videos to Jaclyn Glenn. Ask Yourself had the longest and most thorough response. He did a very good job of intellectually demolishing her. Can TVA reach some demographic of viewers whom the others could not?
I think he has a different demographic and could make a good video on it.
I'll have to check out Ask Yourself's response.

If you have a chance, can you link to all of these for reference? I have to run for now.

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Post by Lightningman_42 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:40 am

brimstoneSalad wrote:I'll have to check out Ask Yourself's response.

If you have a chance, can you link to all of these for reference? I have to run for now.
OK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Wc3m4YuZc (Ask Yourself)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtu_VaEAr2s (Think About This)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RJ4W3U1yDI (Vegan Gains)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM5XbPBElKo (Unnatural Vegan)
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Post by Red » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:10 am

miniboes wrote: To be honest I don't think we need tva to tackle this ; UV has done a great job already and by now the video is pretty old.
I disagree. TheVeganAtheist responded to a video that The Amazing Atheist made almost 4 years ago at the time, and it still holds up. This is only about a month.

Plus, TheVeganAtheist has more subs than UnnaturalVegan, so even if he does make the same arguments, he'd be presenting them to a bigger audience. And for all I know (I haven't watched UV video yet) there may be some things that she missed that TVA can add, or maybe elaborate on a few things that UV said.

But I am worried about it alienating TVA's subscriber base. I'm pretty sure that most of them are for the atheism (since those are the most popular), and since JaclynGlenn is a prominent member of the YouTube atheist community, some may not take it very lightly.

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Post by brimstoneSalad » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:15 pm

I think Red makes a good point about possibly angering some subs who like her a lot; it would just be important to be extra careful about the way you address her, regardless of how annoying she can be. I think Unnatural Vegan was pretty nice (as usual). Although your videos are usually pretty respectful, so I think you'll be fine.
Lightningman_42 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Wc3m4YuZc (Ask Yourself)
That was pretty good. I don't know why he's unwilling to come discuss his videos here. Multiple people have invited him. He doesn't have that many subs, and he could get promotion from it. Does he think he has nothing to learn, or does he not realize that this is mostly a free speech zone (are the threads praising North Korea not adequate evidence of this)?

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Post by Red » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:57 pm

brimstoneSalad wrote:I think Red makes a good point about possibly angering some subs who like her a lot; it would just be important to be extra careful about the way you address her, regardless of how annoying she can be. I think Unnatural Vegan was pretty nice (as usual). Although your videos are usually pretty respectful, so I think you'll be fine.
But then again, maybe not. Jaclyn has received a lot of criticism after stealing entire scripts from more obscure videos then just using them in hers. I think even The Amazing Atheist isn't too fond of her, or even other atheist youtubers, and even a good chunk of the youtube atheist community. And judging by the comments of Jaclyn's video, I think even some meat eaters see how her arguments are shit, and she lost a few subs.

Plus, TVA tends to be stern with his point, but still civil.
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