Conservative Republicans laugh at rape?

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Conservative Republicans laugh at rape?

Post by wfatheist » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:42 am

Of course this is about abortion and the Christians trying to force their beliefs on people. I couldn't agree with the TYT more on this subject and the things they say. I'm also posting the bible verse Cenk refers to.

Numbers 5:11-31New International Version (NIV)

The Test for an Unfaithful Wife

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

Also special thanks to The Vegan Atheist for point this out to me but I'll post this chapter and verse for those that say well that's old testament and jesus doesn't follow that.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

So, many Christians will also say "You are just cherry picking all the bad versus of the bible and taking them out of context." well I want to make the same argument in reverse seeing as I spent many years going to church before I came out of the atheist closet and never once have I heard any of these versus.
Every priest, every pastor, every reverend, or whatever title they want to call themselves has only ever cherry picked the best sounding most awesome go jesus versus they can find.

Lastly just for an additional Crazy in Christianity today ... 55456.html

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Post by brimstoneSalad » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:38 am

Christians usually claim that 'Jesus' sacrifice was the fulfillment', and say that those laws were only valid until Jesus died for man's sins and was resurrected.

It's a weak claim, but religion is not in any way rigorous (unlike science or even philosophy), so they happily make it because no matter how big a stretch it is, there's no way to "prove" or "disprove" it in any objective sense. Scripture and all sorts of random interpretations.

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Post by Mick Peslo » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:44 am

Do you honestly believe an entire chunk of society is going to ignore the the desperate and anguished screams of an individual (male or female) being raped just because of who they tick on a ballot card once every four years? Please give your head a wobble and stop being a muppet. What a stupid post.

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