Climate Change Script; Need Some Pointers

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Climate Change Script; Need Some Pointers

Post by Red » Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:25 pm

Climate Change is an obviously real, man-made phenomenon. I might need some help with writing this script since there is so much bullshit out there from deniers. (climate's always changing, etc)

I said on the other thread I am currently working on my next video, which will be about climate change. I want to make sure I have the video make as concrete of a case for climate change as possible. I've made some pretty decent progress on the script, I'll send you guys the final draft soon.
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Post by teo123 » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:51 am

I'd start with something like this: "The pseudoscience that had the most dangerous results were probably the Trofim Lysenko's agricultural recomendations. They played a major role in the Great Chinese Famine of the late 1950s and early 1960s. Anti-nuclear movement and climate-change denial are similar in their logic to Lysenkoism, and can easily end up being about as dangerous, if not even more."

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Post by brimstoneSalad » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:54 pm

Teo's idea is good, focusing on the harms of pseudoscience, and talking about the consequences of doing nothing about climate change if it's true and if we can afford that gamble (for people on the fence). Then cover the evidence.

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Post by teo123 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:10 am

brimstoneSalad wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:54 pm
Teo's idea is good, focusing on the harms of pseudoscience, and talking about the consequences of doing nothing about climate change if it's true and if we can afford that gamble (for people on the fence). Then cover the evidence.
Anyway, what do you think about this article I've written? Can it be useful in debunking pseudoscience?
I am not really too aware of the specific claims that global warming deniers make. I mean, I know that the less reasonable ones claim that the globe is not actually warming and that the data that shows it's warming is somehow faked (and that idea is just too ridiculous to even think about). I also know that the more reasonable ones claim that there is no evidence for the water causing the positive feedback loop, and that the data has been misinterpreted because of the flawed climate models (that it's not reasonable to expect the Earth to warm by two degrees in this century, but somewhere around 0.5 degrees).
But that position seeming more reasonable doesn't mean it's right. Let-it-happen-on-purpose conspiracy theories are more sensible than the make-it-happen-on-purpose conspiracy theories, that doesn't suggest that let-it-happen-on-purpose conspiracy theories are likely to be right.

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Post by Red » Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:53 pm

brimstoneSalad wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:54 pm
Teo's idea is good, focusing on the harms of pseudoscience, and talking about the consequences of doing nothing about climate change if it's true and if we can afford that gamble (for people on the fence). Then cover the evidence.
ఠ_ఠ What do you mean 'if it's true'? I thought climate change was an entrenched scientific consensus and has been for many years now? I know nothing in science is never proven 100%, but I thought climate change is a fact like evolution? Or are you saying 'if' in reference to people who might be denying it?

Anyway, I'll incorporate that idea into the script!
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Post by brimstoneSalad » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:52 pm

Red wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:53 pm
Or are you saying 'if' in reference to people who might be denying it?
Yes, and just the point that you can apply decision theory to it.

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