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totally disturbing reaction

Post by Twizelby » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:35 pm

I have had my fair share of insults but I have never seen this kind of reaction to veganism. Very frightening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym0q6oN ... TJKHsqm5lw

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Post by miniboes » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:26 pm

Wow, the titles of that youtuber's videos really make him look anti-vegan. Anyway, yeah, assholes.
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Post by Jebus » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:19 pm

I would have loved to be there.
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Post by miniboes » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:28 pm

Jebus wrote:I would have loved to be there.
Really? To do what? It looks like a terrible experience to me.
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Post by Jebus » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:26 am

miniboes wrote:
Jebus wrote:I would have loved to be there.
Really? To do what? It looks like a terrible experience to me.
To intimidate those who intimidate
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Post by brimstoneSalad » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:19 am

That's not a reaction against veganism, it's a reaction to the anti-vivisection protest.

The vivisectors didn't come off well there.

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Post by J-Park » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:57 pm

I have respect for the silent protesters, not just for honoring the primates, but for their resolve in the face of that earsplitting opposition. I’ll be honest, if that pompous meathead was screaming in my face, the way he was with that woman, his face would have become well acquainted with my forehead.

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Post by garrethdsouza » Mon May 25, 2015 12:57 pm

to start with refering to animal research as vivisection isnt scientifically correct and is no longer the term used by scientists today. vivisection implies live animal dissection which isnt the case for much of animal research, its more of a perjorative used by the animal rights groups.

granted it was a silent protest, but they are showing up at a persons house without prior warning and given the number of individuals who decide to do this at their own call, their being no regulation for this (?) and the frequency of such visits it could become fairly even unbearably high.

despite research often involved in nontrivial issues including saving lives, having stringent regulations, use of anesthesia to avoid pain and treatment conditions and numbers that are in an entirely different league from the completely unnecessary raising of animals for meat, eggs and dairy, individuals seldom do this sort of thing for carnists ie show up at their houses for a protest, perhaps because they arent in the minority while researchers may often be in a community setting so its much easier to intimidate them.

next off while this was a silent protest, many others have been far from such nonviolent tactics. ive heard individuals spouting views like "whatever it takes". for instance
http://icl.googleusercontent.com/?lite_ ... =en-IN&s=1
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/ ... -children/
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/ ... ve-struck/
^this is the same Ringach who debated francione a summary of which is here http://animalrights.about.com/od/vivise ... ingach.htm

even some prominent individuals in the AR movement have said some pretty egregious things http://speakingofresearch.com/2012/10/2 ... t-like-it/

i completely agree that the behaviour of *some* of the animal researchers in the video was abysmal ( they didnt provide any retorts of why the science was important, one person even said something like go eat tofu (?) and that one guy's behavior especially was terrible, i would have expected them to be more professional).

the other issue is that most often the protests are at points of animal product consumption, so shouldnt they also be going to hospitals for protests since they want to prevent meds from being developed, a lot of which would be impossible if it were not for animal experimentation?
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