You're not saying that it's equally likely that it'd be good or bad if the Holocaust never happened?RedAppleGP wrote:I'm not saying that they are equally likely. And how educated of a guess can you make? There are countless factors that play into it. From single person taking a misstep to the President signing a seemingly inconsequential bill, you'd have to know every single factor, because even if you leave just one out, your educated guess may just be rendered worthless.
And?Well, I'm actually reading Pinker's The Better Angels of Our Nature and I'm starting to get to the part where he talks about how murders by people have caused more deaths than the government genocides.
Do you believe that the Holocaust or the war was necessary for the advancement of the world?And again, preventing the Holocaust sounds like a great idea, but history has been fairly steady ever since the war. You can either advance humanity 10 fold, or allow for its extinction.
As I stated, I don't think so without a doubt. I don't think either of those things are without a doubt going to result in a positive or negative outcome.This is telling me that you think without a doubt the lack of a Holocaust would be positive. Don't get me wrong; the Holocaust was terrible. But in your example, of course, finding your dog would make you happier. (Assuming) You love your dog, it's almost guaranteed that you'd be happier. The same can't be said about the Holocaust, which is on a much larger scale and has almost impossibly predictable outcomes.
Exactly. Three people out of the 107 billion people that have ever existed. And all three are debatable.You said that it's hard to rival the terriblenessessess of what Hitler done do, so here's a list of 5 people cause I don't feel like making a longer one.
ok I cant think of anymore
The reason why there hasn't been a purposeful genocide that bad is because it's hard to kill that many millions of people, not because the world has learned to stop genocides. There have been multiple genocides since then that the world hasn't stopped, or even put in nearly enough of an effort to stop.I was just using 9/11 as an example. When was the last time we saw a purposeful genocide that bad?
By installing multiple in power during the Cold War and after?Also, we're making sure to keep fuckers from becoming dictators more ever since then AFAIK.
I never claimed we could be sure.AGAIN, how can you know if there aren't any negative repercussions?