I am not Dizzy

[NonZeroSum]

NonZeroSum - Something to do with zero sum game?

Okay, please let me know if I was right!

Non zero sum game

In contrast, non-zero-sum describes a situation in which the interacting parties' aggregate gains and losses can be less than or more than zero. A zero-sum game is also called a strictly competitive game while non-zero-sum games can be either competitive or non-competitive.

Your turn Di[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]y


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Robert Wright: The logic of non-zero-sum progress
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcZFIy2mfyE

Author Robert Wright explains "non-zero-sumness" — the network of linked fortunes and cooperation that has guided our evolution to this point — and how we can use it to help save humanity today.

Robert Wright; Evolutionairy Ethics
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3186

Robert Wright on the evolution of compassion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4wFyRGilp4

Robert Wright on Modern Psychology and the self - youtube.com/watch?v=gRCxX8JnTM4&list=PLXRGPjh6kmaNs-PqEIcX0xafTirZl-0-d&index=13

[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

NonZeroSum - Something to do with zero sum game?

Okay, please let me know if I was right!

Non zero sum game

In contrast, non-zero-sum describes a situation in which the interacting parties' aggregate gains and losses can be less than or more than zero. A zero-sum game is also called a strictly competitive game while non-zero-sum games can be either competitive or non-competitive.

Your turn Di[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]y

I have clearly lost. I will never win anyone's respect because you keep thinking I'm Dizzy.

I'M NOT!

[NonZeroSum]

I have clearly lost. I will never win anyone's respect because you keep thinking I'm Dizzy.

You have my respect for being comedy and a clever guy, but yes you lost when you wouldn't reveal in one thread or private message, so I had to take the war forum-wide

Your move, reveal tell all please

[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

I have clearly lost. I will never win anyone's respect because you keep thinking I'm Dizzy.

You have my respect for being comedy and a clever guy, but yes you lost when you wouldn't reveal in one thread or private message, so I had to take the war forum-wide

Your move, reveal tell all please

I AM NOT DIZZY. YOU HAVE NO PROOF. YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU WHO IS MAKING THE CLAIM THAT I AM DIZZY.

[NonZeroSum]

I AM NOT DIZZY. YOU HAVE NO PROOF. YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU WHO IS MAKING THE CLAIM THAT I AM DIZZY.

Challenge accepted, give me 10 to search out the requisite proof.


IP address

This is my strongest claim, if all of Dizzy's alts match the same IP address it would be massively far fetched that the most recent one wasn't also Dizzy.

They post from the same IP address, so I assume Zzzzz is Dizzy, but Dizzy and Zzzzz have said they are not the same person and that Zzzz is Dizzy's friend from Japan and he lets him borrow his computer. OK, sounds legit.

To add to that you confused your alibi by mixing computer signature with IP address - internet connection (broadband, Wi-Fi), and was amused by your mistake:

That's no way to talk about your roommate who you've shared the same computer with for years

How did you know we were roommates? Neither he nor I has mentioned it. He got a new computer recently, I use his old one.

Same IP address, it's okay you don't need to weave a story about still using the same old computer, IP is just having the same wireless connection.

Hehe. Really?

So even if your amusement didn't give the game away it'd be highly improbable you're using the same old computer that 'your roommate lent you' who's also been using it for years, the motherboard gets corrupted and they die, not to mention incredibly painfully slow.


Same Post rate

Dizzy posts often, Blizzy takes their place and posts often, you post often, what would be the chances that a new housemate suddenly got the exact same enthusiasm about the forum and took over for all of Dizzy's other incarnations?


Same style of posting

Everyone can tell you turn a phrase the same way your old accounts did, that's very difficult to mimic and you've got it without even trying. That and posting to the same threads, creating the same kind of threads like polls and you're love of innane trollish humor which is pretty funny:

The jobless are often not productive members of society, should we therefore eat them?

What if they are extremely retarded adults?

My friend, will be a good point!

...However...

Unemployment is, you can get the job done.
Stephen Hawking is disabled, please look at him

Unlike the regular police, though, we won't be shooting your dog. We're vegans, after all.

Asians it is very racist to estimate and do not eat a dog.

Which brings me to the last forgery:


Language


You're sudden fluency in English and the comic punchline setups within your perfectly arranged 'broken English.'

People sleepy is something, please let me know? Sorry, I will not be able to understand English. . .
Well lucky for you, and I was studying politics at Oxford in the past year and I can tell all of you about BRITISH politics!

NonZeroSum, It was a mistranslation made by Google translate when I said I studied at Oxford university, the real university I cannot disclose for security reasons.

Google translate doesn't mistranslate place names or entire franchises into comic broken English.


Last confession
http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?t=1586

Another confession please, and reveal all; what you think your greatest hits were and what experiences you gained in the role =D

[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

I AM NOT DIZZY. YOU HAVE NO PROOF. YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU WHO IS MAKING THE CLAIM THAT I AM DIZZY.

Challenge accepted, give me 10 to search out the requisite proof.


IP address

This is my strongest claim, if all of Dizzy's alts match the same IP address it would be massively far fetched that the most recent one wasn't also Dizzy.

They post from the same IP address, so I assume Zzzzz is Dizzy, but Dizzy and Zzzzz have said they are not the same person and that Zzzz is Dizzy's friend from Japan and he lets him borrow his computer. OK, sounds legit.

To add to that you confused you're alibi by mixing computer signature with IP address - internet connection (broadband, Wi-Fi), and was amused by your mistake:

That's no way to talk about your roommate who you've shared the same computer with for years

How did you know we were roommates? Neither he nor I has mentioned it. He got a new computer recently, I use his old one.

Same IP address, it's okay you don't need to weave a story about still using the same old computer, IP is just having the same wireless connection.

Hehe. Really?

So even if your amusement didn't give the game away it'd be highly improbable you're using the same old computer that 'you're roommate lent you' who's also been using it for years, the motherboard gets corrupted and they die, not to mention incredibly painfully slow.


Same Post rate

Dizzy posts often, Blizzy takes their place and posts often, you post often, what would be the chances that a new housemate suddenly got the exact same enthusiasm about the forum and took over for all of Dizzy's other incarnations?


Same style of posting

Everyone can tell you turn a phrase the same way your old accounts did, that's very difficult to mimic and you've got it without even trying. That and posting to the same threads, creating the same kind of threads like polls and you're love of innane trollish humor which is pretty funny:

The jobless are often not productive members of society, should we therefore eat them?

What if they are extremely retarded adults?

My friend, will be a good point!

...However...

Unemployment is, you can get the job done.
Stephen Hawking is disabled, please look at him

Unlike the regular police, though, we won't be shooting your dog. We're vegans, after all.

Asians it is very racist to estimate and do not eat a dog.

Which brings me to the last forgery:


Language


You're sudden fluency in language and the comic punchline setups within your perfectly arranged 'broken English.'

People sleepy is something, please let me know? Sorry, I will not be able to understand English. . .
Well lucky for you, and I was studying politics at Oxford in the past year and I can tell all of you about BRITISH politics!

NonZeroSum, It was a mistranslation made by Google translate when I said I studied at Oxford university, the real university I cannot disclose for security reasons.

Google translate doesn't mistranslate place names or entire franchises into comic broken English.


Last confession

Last confession -http://philosophicalvegan.com/viewtopic.php?t=1586

Another confession please, and reveal all what your greatest hits were and what experiences you gained in the role.

IP Address - Same place
Post rate - You post more often than me.
Same style of posting - It was a mistranslation, I thought miniboes was talking about disabled people, and Equallity was talking about asians eating dog. YES - Google Translate DOES mistranslate things disastrously!
Language - YES IT DOES!!!
Last confession - How is this relevant?

I can not express how betrayed I feel right now. I thought you were my friend. How would you like it if I started talking shit about you?

[NonZeroSum]

I can not express how betrayed I feel right now. I thought you were my friend. How would you like it if I started talking shit about you?

Since you asked, despite my misgivings, I will say I sincerely apologize for accusing you of being a troll and sorry it got this far, I would hate to think that the case, you'd just have to take into consideration what it looks like from here, even though I would know that would be no excuse. You would be welcome to carry on even if you weren't who you say you are and I wont talk about it again if you don't like it and want me to stop. If you aren't telling the truth however I wouldn't find this funny either, the same way I didn't find you mocking north Korean refugees funny. However I'd be more than happy to put this behind us and as I said before I enjoy your posts and think you are genuinely clever guy, so would hope you could continue thinking of me as your friend.

[Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

1. I am not Dizzy.
2. Even if I was Dizzy, it would be irrelevant.
3. Calling me Dizzy to discredit what I say is an Ad Hominem attack.
4. Calling me Dizzy to annoy me demonstrates childishness and immaturity.
5. I have always been respectful in debate during my time on this forum.
6. I love this forum and interacting with others with different viewpoints very much but if I am just going to be called Dizzy and a troll then I can not tolerate it and there is no point.
7. I am open-minded.
8. Calling me Dizzy and a troll is counter-productive and harmful to the vegan movements, the humanist movements, the progressive movements and the free thinker movements and it damages their legitimacy.
9. If somebody calls me Dizzy once more, I will issue a warning for them to stop.
10. If they persist, I will leave this forum and never come back.

NonZeroSum, I forgive you, and am sorry for overreacting. OF COURSE You are still my friend!

If you aren't telling the truth however I wouldn't find this funny either, the same way I didn't find you mocking north Korean refugees funny.

This is constructive criticism. I will take it to heart and make it a point not to make light out of situations that are serious.

Instead, if anybody is interested in North Korea, I urge them to watch this video that shows how North Korean refugees may not be the most accurate or reliable source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfNHdhIE13A

But like you said, if I was falsely accused of rape, it would not do any good to mock the person who claimed they were the victim.

Thank you.

[brimstoneSalad]

2. Even if I was Dizzy, it would be irrelevant.

This is the most important point.

We liked Dizzy, and we like you. Doesn't matter who you were or are. You post a lot, and you're funny and nice. That's what matters.

We'd love for Dizzy to come around and post more too. What's he up to?

9. If somebody calls me Dizzy once more, I will issue a warning for them to stop.
10. If they persist, I will leave this forum and never come back.

Don't leave on account of one member.
This is mostly a free speech zone, there will inevitably be people and posts you disagree with. If somebody is bullying you like he seemed to be doing, we'll step up and have your back. Nobody aside from him really cares if you're Dizzy or not, and it's nobody's business, that's between you and Dizzy.

[NonZeroSum]

If somebody is bullying you like he seemed to be doing. . .
Nobody aside from him really cares if you're Dizzy or not. . .

Wow thank you for that stellar contribution, so it's bullying to have friendly banter about whether one person is playing a comedic role, throwing in Rick and Morty references and all the way along emphasizing that I find them as a person funny and clever, then apologizing when they ask me to. But it is okay to slander someone as a racist and sexist and not apologize for that claim.

People care enough to comment and give their two cents as you and others have done many times, we have affirmed our friendship, for someone to come in after that and say one was bullying is the definition of shit stirring.

I sincerely apologize for accusing you of being a troll and sorry it got this far, I would hate to think that the case. . . I'd be more than happy to put this behind us and as I said before I enjoy your posts and think you are genuinely clever guy, so would hope you could continue thinking of me as your friend.

. . .You would be welcome to carry on even if you weren't who you say you are and I wont talk about it again if you don't like it and want me to stop.